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3. In Robert's Rules, the decisions are made by the members of an organization. Why doesn't an Association board allow the members to vote on issues that face our Association?
This is a common question which illustrates a basic misunderstanding about the structure of an Association. In a typical homeowners' association, the individual owners have very limited rights. They have the power to elect the board, and they have some rights under the law regarding mergers, dissolution of the corporation, changes to the Association's governing documents, and other types of major decisions as provided by applicable law. The major decision-making authority vests with the elected board of directors. Therefore, even where Robert's Rules may apply, the members will not have the right to vote on the day to day business decisions of the Association.
anon -- that's why the bod members should have some experience in managing a business or overseeing an organization-- this bod has too many members on it who are unqualified for this job -- they continually display an arrogant attitude toward the association members, they mismanage the assets of the community from the finances to the labor and equipment, they operate on the edge of the law and skirt around any number of laws, their actions expose la to fines, lawsuits, and possible adverse settlements-- the association membership needs to be sure they know who they are voting onto this bod -- the consequences of having unqualified people on the bod can be very detrimental to the welfare of the community
Wednesday, March 4, 2009
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I know the concensus is the previous PM and BOD did damage but what specifically has the new BOD done to mismanage finances, labor and equipment? Is the thought that only a few members have been replaced so they are all guilty by association to the previous board members? If we are being exposed to lawsuits and city/county fines we need to know what they are doing and quickly address each issue as the fines impact our dues and ultimately our pocket books. Paying dues for facilty upgrades is one thing but I'd like to know what labor and city laws we must address to avoid fines to which we may be open to. It sounds like they are doing nothing right. I for one am in the dark as to all the possible infractions this BOD has left us open to and you appear to have more information as to what the BOD is doing right and wrong than the rest of us so we'd like further details. As for unqualified members, I read the biographies of each candidate last year and they all had business management experience, financial accountability, etc. If candidates lie on the bios that are mailed out how are we to know who is qualified? I would hope there is some screening to make sure there is truth in each candidate's resume.
ReplyDeleteit's comments like yours that lead people to think our BOD isn't qualified to make decisions, these bd members come from very diversified backgrounds, some professional, some running businesses, some with quite alot of knowledge of electrical, water systems and sewer mgmt. Do not believe everything the people at the twsp. tell you, there are some there who just love to give out misleading or plain wrong information. You don't know what you are talking about, but you're accusations sure do stir the pot, which is one of the biggest problems at LACA.
ReplyDeleteWould the party who made the statement that members have no right to vote on budgets, expenditures etc. please tell me which page, of the 1840, in Roberts Rules contain that statement!!!!Being a member of a Homeowners Association for over 20 years and Lake Adventure for 18 but must confess really didn't bother to get involved until someone told me about the Chipper last month and after reading entries am really shocked to find out all the issues that exist. First off, the duly elected board has the responsibility to work for the membership and not their gains, as people have indicated with members getting electrical upgrades, road and sewer repairs while others who are not friends of board members flounder. Yes, there is a lot of mis-doings going on if even .01% of these is true. But the main response is that members have no rights. Are we in Cuba or other countries run by dictators, we damn well do have the right to vote on where our money is going so before the party who made that statement should read Roberts Rules updated version as of 2006 to see how an organization such as LA should be run. As far as people making supposedly false statements they should be taken with a grain of salt, plus, if people wouldn't feel threatened if they verse their opinions about what's going on they would put their names in blogs, I sure as hell won't after hearing threats at the August meeting against CCLA members. As CCLA goes I too wonder, as a blogger mentioned, how much their lawyer costs in comparison to what we are being charged by the lawyer who was to solve our trailer problem only to generate more anger towards LA by the township!!! Election time is coming and property owners should reflect their approval or dis-approval of board members up for re-election personally I observed one member, while I spent my three weeks up there last summer, I believe his name is Lennie who was trying to get repair work done on property owners lot that had been dug up with a hole the size of a bomb crater and saw him there numerous times along with a woman board member doing supervisory work that should've been done by a manager or maintenance supervisor. If they are up for re-election they will get my vote and only wish other board members took that kind of interest. I wish I was in the position to run for the board but family obligations and work prevent this but I can assure you when retirement rolls around and I do have the time I will take a greater interest in LA and where my dues are going.
ReplyDeleteI SURE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS THAT IS WHY WE PAY BIG BUCKS TO PROPERTY MANAGERS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT GIVES THEM LICENCE TO SC--W US . I JUST WANT TO VOTE ON THE PROPSED BUDGET THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED AT AN OPEN SPECIAL MEETING TO PRESENT THE BUDGET PREPARED BY THE BOD & THEN VOTED ON YES OR NO BY A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE PRESENT WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE JUST AS YOU DO ON YOUR SCHOOL BUDGETS. THAT RIGHT FOR THE LAST 3 BUDGETS HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY BY THE BOD. THAT IS WHAT CCLA TOOK THEM TO TASK FOR. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM & WHY IS PAST & PRESENT BOARD PAYING A LAWYER TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS. CAN IT BE THAT THERE IS NOT AN UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THIS ISSUE & THE 2 MEMBERS MR. BERKEY TRIED TO TAR IN HIS INFUMOUS LETTER VOTING TO KEEP YOUR RIGHTS? WHY NOT ASK WHEN THERE IS A MEET THE CANDIDATES NIGHT OR AT AN OPEN BOARD MEETING? ASK EVERY CANDIDATE IF HE THINKS PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE ON THESE ENORMOUS INCREASES OR WILL HE ALSO WANT TO BE AGAINST YOUR RIGHT AS AN OWNER TO VOTE
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