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Joe Birrell's explanation makes sense to me but the reason that section was done first wasn't made very public or there wouldn't be such an uproar on this site. It seems to me that based on comments here if section 5 was done first people in sections 1,2,3 & 4 would complain. If section 4 was done first those in 1,2,3 & 5 would find a reason to complain. You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

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Sounds like this was written by Lenny or Marietta themselves, or one of their infamous friends. They're good for taking all the credit for things getting done, except that it has all been in the works long before they got involved.

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If an obituary page is going to be posted, it should at least be updated with guidelines. Some information about the people would be nice. Without the details the page is meaningless. In my opinion the page should come down or do it right. By the way, I have checked a few other lake communities in the area and not one has an obituary page.

Perhaps the web admin for the site can post more info about events, pictures, etc. From a marketing perspective the focus should be on LA and how great it is for families.

Does anyone think the obituary page turns people away?

Just my 2 cents. Have a nice day. :)

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I SURE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS THAT IS WHY WE PAY BIG BUCKS TO PROPERTY MANAGERS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT GIVES THEM LICENCE TO SC--W US . I JUST WANT TO VOTE ON THE PROPSED BUDGET THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED AT AN OPEN SPECIAL MEETING TO PRESENT THE BUDGET PREPARED BY THE BOD & THEN VOTED ON YES OR NO BY A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE PRESENT WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE JUST AS YOU DO ON YOUR SCHOOL BUDGETS. THAT RIGHT FOR THE LAST 3 BUDGETS HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY BY THE BOD. THAT IS WHAT CCLA TOOK THEM TO TASK FOR. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM & WHY IS PAST & PRESENT BOARD PAYING A LAWYER TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHTS. CAN IT BE THAT THERE IS NOT AN UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THIS ISSUE & THE 2 MEMBERS MR. BERKEY TRIED TO TAR IN HIS INFUMOUS LETTER VOTING TO KEEP YOUR RIGHTS? WHY NOT ASK WHEN THERE IS A MEET THE CANDIDATES NIGHT OR AT AN OPEN BOARD MEETING? ASK EVERY CANDIDATE IF HE THINKS PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE ON THESE ENORMOUS INCREASES OR WILL HE ALSO WANT TO BE AGAINST YOUR RIGHT AS AN OWNER TO VOTE

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It was good to read something from an owner who makes sense as oppose to the friend of the board president who only wants to ignore the fact that former board presidents & board members have run Lake Adventure like their private kingdom with the lowly servants having no rights to republish that ridiculous letter he wrote condemning CCLA when he is spending money on the lawyer to fight against property owners right to vote on the budgets and wants to make it only right for 7 elected members to decide on much dues are for 1749 lots.
That was Lenny Masucci, board member you saw who has a reputation of helping property owners when they can't get the help from our maintence to perform work they get paid to do and there is only 1 woman on the board the one elected last year Marietta Richard who I and many others saw on job sites & working in office after Gary was fired. Understand that she volunteered to oversee work that was needed until a property manager was going to be hired. All I know is that I didn't see those two board members sitting at the pool enjoying themselves like our esteemed Pres. & Treasurer, Ed Rohs. I guess you know who I am voting for if they are running. I am anonymous because I don't want Mr. Berkey blaming me for his mistakes.

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CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR CONSUMER AFFAIRS AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT ASSOCIATIONS SUCH AS OURS BY PA LAW MUST BE RUN UNDER ROBERTS RULES OR GO TO A LIBRARY OR INTERNET AND LOOK IT UP.
AS TO THE QUESTION OF WHERE IS THE ELECTRIC BEING UPGRADED I STOPPED & ASKED WHEN I SAW THEM INSTALLING IT IN FALL & WAS TOLD BY JOE BIRREL, COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR LA THAT THE WORK WAS NOW BEING DONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PARK BECAUSE THAT IS THE OLDEST SECTION & FIRST SECTION PUT IN IN 1976 AND WOULD CONTINUE BEING INSTALLED SO THAT OLDEST SECTIONS WOULD GET UPGRADED & THAT THIS WOULD IMPROVE THE OTHER AREAS AS WORK PROGRESSED. THIS CERTAINLY MADE SENSE TO ME RATHER THAT GOING TO MAYBE PERFERED AREAS WHERE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THEIR LOTS. MAYBE WE FINALLY HAVE SOME MEMBERS THINKING OR HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN THOSE WHO SERVED ON BOARD BEFORE. FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM OTHERS THE FIRST SECTION THAT WAS DONE ALL THE WAY IN BACK OF PARK WAS DONE BECAUSE 3 BOARD MEMBERS HAVE LOTS BACK THERE & PM KNEW WHERE HIS BREAD WAS BUTTERED, YOU THINK?

LETTER FROM PREZ !!!

this may be the most interesting and revealing letter in the adventurer -- enjoy!!!

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Would the party who made the statement that members have no right to vote on budgets, expenditures etc. please tell me which page, of the 1840, in Roberts Rules contain that statement!!!!Being a member of a Homeowners Association for over 20 years and Lake Adventure for 18 but must confess really didn't bother to get involved until someone told me about the Chipper last month and after reading entries am really shocked to find out all the issues that exist. First off, the duly elected board has the responsibility to work for the membership and not their gains, as people have indicated with members getting electrical upgrades, road and sewer repairs while others who are not friends of board members flounder. Yes, there is a lot of mis-doings going on if even .01% of these is true. But the main response is that members have no rights. Are we in Cuba or other countries run by dictators, we damn well do have the right to vote on where our money is going so before the party who made that statement should read Roberts Rules updated version as of 2006 to see how an organization such as LA should be run. As far as people making supposedly false statements they should be taken with a grain of salt, plus, if people wouldn't feel threatened if they verse their opinions about what's going on they would put their names in blogs, I sure as hell won't after hearing threats at the August meeting against CCLA members. As CCLA goes I too wonder, as a blogger mentioned, how much their lawyer costs in comparison to what we are being charged by the lawyer who was to solve our trailer problem only to generate more anger towards LA by the township!!! Election time is coming and property owners should reflect their approval or dis-approval of board members up for re-election personally I observed one member, while I spent my three weeks up there last summer, I believe his name is Lennie who was trying to get repair work done on property owners lot that had been dug up with a hole the size of a bomb crater and saw him there numerous times along with a woman board member doing supervisory work that should've been done by a manager or maintenance supervisor. If they are up for re-election they will get my vote and only wish other board members took that kind of interest. I wish I was in the position to run for the board but family obligations and work prevent this but I can assure you when retirement rolls around and I do have the time I will take a greater interest in LA and where my dues are going.

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I know the concensus is the previous PM and BOD did damage but what specifically has the new BOD done to mismanage finances, labor and equipment? Is the thought that only a few members have been replaced so they are all guilty by association to the previous board members? If we are being exposed to lawsuits and city/county fines we need to know what they are doing and quickly address each issue as the fines impact our dues and ultimately our pocket books. Paying dues for facilty upgrades is one thing but I'd like to know what labor and city laws we must address to avoid fines to which we may be open to. It sounds like they are doing nothing right. I for one am in the dark as to all the possible infractions this BOD has left us open to and you appear to have more information as to what the BOD is doing right and wrong than the rest of us so we'd like further details. As for unqualified members, I read the biographies of each candidate last year and they all had business management experience, financial accountability, etc. If candidates lie on the bios that are mailed out how are we to know who is qualified? I would hope there is some screening to make sure there is truth in each candidate's resume.


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it's comments like yours that lead people to think our BOD isn't qualified to make decisions, these bd members come from very diversified backgrounds, some professional, some running businesses, some with quite alot of knowledge of electrical, water systems and sewer mgmt. Do not believe everything the people at the twsp. tell you, there are some there who just love to give out misleading or plain wrong information. You don't know what you are talking about, but you're accusations sure do stir the pot, which is one of the biggest problems at LACA.

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SURE KEEP CALLING THE TOWNSHIP, 5 PEOPLE WILL GET 5 DIFFERENT ANSWERS, THE TOWN ARE NOT TRYING TO HELP, BUT THEY ARE GOOD AT DOUBLE TALKING.

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I GUESS IF THE CCLA MAKES THE SAME FALSE ACCUSATIONS LONG ENOUGH THEY FEEL PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE ACCUSING THE BOD OF. ALL I CAN SAY TO NEW OWNERS OR ANYONE INTERESTED IN HOW LACA IS RUN IS TO ATTEND OPEN BOARD MEETINGS AND GET FIRST HAND INFORMATION FOR YOURSELF, THEN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION.


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YEAH FOR THE NEW MEMBERS, WHO WERE NO BETTER QUALIFIED THAN PAST BUDGET MEMBERS WHO INCLUDED AN ACCOUNTANT, AND PERSONS WHO WORKED IN BOOKKEEPING, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE 90% TO ME, BUT HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE MISINFORMATION. GOTTA LOVE THE CCLA.

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3. In Robert's Rules, the decisions are made by the members of an organization. Why doesn't an Association board allow the members to vote on issues that face our Association?
This is a common question which illustrates a basic misunderstanding about the structure of an Association. In a typical homeowners' association, the individual owners have very limited rights. They have the power to elect the board, and they have some rights under the law regarding mergers, dissolution of the corporation, changes to the Association's governing documents, and other types of major decisions as provided by applicable law. The major decision-making authority vests with the elected board of directors. Therefore, even where Robert's Rules may apply, the members will not have the right to vote on the day to day business decisions of the Association.


anon -- that's why the bod members should have some experience in managing a business or overseeing an organization-- this bod has too many members on it who are unqualified for this job -- they continually display an arrogant attitude toward the association members, they mismanage the assets of the community from the finances to the labor and equipment, they operate on the edge of the law and skirt around any number of laws, their actions expose la to fines, lawsuits, and possible adverse settlements-- the association membership needs to be sure they know who they are voting onto this bod -- the consequences of having unqualified people on the bod can be very detrimental to the welfare of the community

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I too called the twsp and was advised there was miscommunication regarding trailer permits. I was also told our electric system was one of the main reasons we were denied 12' wides. They don't want more stress on the electric system, they feel a larger trailer would use more electric than an old 8 1/2 wide. Actually a new 12' wide would use less electric than an old tipout. The new 12's are enegery compliant and with new furnaces, hot water heaters and cooling systems plus better insulation they are more energy efficient. Too bad the twsp doesn't see it that way.

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I am a new owner (4 years) but isn't this Association run according to Roberts Rules, I thought that this was law in PA as in most states which I believe states that property owners have the right to vote for or against a new budget & if voted against then a new budget must be prepared & presented. Also at a schedule hearing of the budget a quoram of the people attending can vote for or against. From listening to neighbors this board or previous members for the last two years over-ruled the quoram and pushed an unwanted budget thru & the next year the board wouldn't allow the property owners vote. Even this year when they lowered the dues by $150.00 (a drop in the bucket, after the enormous increases from the $950 charge 5 years ago) they still would not ALLOW the owners to vote on budget. Someone with knowledge of PA law of Roberts Rule is this even legal? Help please if you know the answer and can back it up so we can take them to task.

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Mistake by township - what else is new - Lake Adventure there new cash cow - I called & you only need as before permit for trailer placement from LA - recommend that if your lot does not have original stakes according to your deed then get it surveyed & staked. Hey, have friends in other dingman communities & they just go get a permit for a deck from twp with no hassel then when completed inspector comes out & gives approval. Why all the harrasment aginst us? What is twp objective to force us out and sell to a developer so they have more taxes to coffer. I guess they're not worried about infrastruce of other communities who are having way more problems with their Assoc than us - Heard that Sunrise suing their builder who they pay dues to & won't even fix their pool plus not living up to their promies. Dingmans after them too?:

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I agree about the obituary page needing to come down. What is the purpose of having it? In fact, it can really open a can of worms. If someone passes on and their name is not listed, can that be seen as discrimination? What is the process to have someone added to the page? No process is listed on the web page. That leads me to believe that the board, management and staff extend condolences as they see fit. If you do it for one, you must do it for all.

THIS PAGE NEED TO COME DOWN or add some processes around it such as:

- How to submit a name
- Length of time name will be published
- background about the person (Details)

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If you've been an owner for five years you must have observed what the status of our infrastructure and fines we had to pay due to mis-management by our maintenance department and sewer treatment plant by the previous manager and with no audit available at the time of his being let go who knows what else he did. One item everyone must be aware of is the DEP is on our case about the water and sewer and if everyone just thinks we have the best people taking care of these utilities at present why are the township and DEP evaluating us. For everyone's information the DEP fined Eagle Lake $35K for violations last summer as first time offenders and with us alrteady paying a $10K fine do you think we will be fined less?? If so wait for the Easter Bunny to pay it. In previous blogs the infrastructure has been mentioned by the township the reason we cannot upgrade our trailers, hello, if the same people maintain our systems and use the same contractors for repairs and upgrades where do you think we are headed--for a train wreck. The new manager, by the information from the board, should make the maintenance and sewer treatment and water system a top priority or face more fines and possibly a closure. If you need proof about Eagle Lake look on the web site for Eagle Lake/Wilkes Barre fine and you can see what I'm talking about. As a full time resident of Pennsylvania I've found out the hard way about the laws and fines the state hands out and with the township having lean times in meeting their budgets there is no faster way to build up revenues than fining property owners.

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I've been an owner for almost five years. I didn't receive a copy of the CCLA claim. When was it mailed out? It would be appreciated if someone would submit it to Chipper and let him post it so those of us who are unaware of the situation can be updated. While I don't doubt the claims I'd like to see the letter rather than rely on hearsay.
We have a new manager and you indicate for the first time we are receiving fiance accountability and have board members with backgrounds relative to their board seat. Sounds to me like this BOD has accomplished quite a bit in the last nine months.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "in defense of everything !!!":

You must be new owner or you would have received the mailing about what CCLA was requesting as the rights of property owners to have acess to. There never was a lawsuit against the Association but after years of requesting info. and the boards over the past 20 years running the community like their own little kingdom and refusing to ALLOW property owners, without having to sign 5 documents plus getting a notary to verify their signature then maybe the bod would allow you to see whatever you requested. They even asked the Attorney General to step in who informed them that the only way to force the issue was to hire a private attorney & get the courts to intervene to force them by PA. law "A right to know state" to let anyone look over the books. Enough people in the community felt that the only way to do this was to raise money to hire a lawyer which at least a third of property owners felt it was important enough to put up their money to try & get answers. Their intention has never been to sue for money, which would only be suing themselves, but since the board refused to provide answers were hoping that the courts would side with owners and & rule that they have a right to know if their money is being spent correctly or is being mismanaged. If it has cost $9,000 as Mr. Berkey states it is because they are fighting against your rights and the new lawyer they have hired is charging outrageously high fees as I have heard that CCLA has not spent even half that amount for their lawyer. Why is the President & some board members fighting so hard against CCLA what are they trying to hide? A manager gets fired after 5 years, not because he was doing a great job but because there were problems with his management, don't you think owners have a right to know if he mismanaged our funds that he had the right to sign for loans, and exhorbitant contracts and to accept bids. With so many other associations the last few years proving that money is stolen from their accounts & people going to jail that we are not entitled to the proof that our money has not also been misappropriated? Sure Mr. Berkey this summer stated that if you want to review anything he will now allow it after you request it in writing and get approval. But this is after CCLA had to hire a lawyer, but says if they want to have an accountant check the finances then they should pay the fee. Why? the responsibility is the Boards not members of the community to prove that the PM did the right thing under our employment

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IN ANSWER TO WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB THE TREASURER, ED ROHS DID THIS YEAR WITH THE BUDGET THAT EVERYTHING IS LISTED, YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT NO THANKS TO HIM BUT TO THE FACT THAT FINALLY AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF THE SAME PEOPLE ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHO 90% HAD NO BACKGROUND IN FINANCE A NEW COMMITTEE WAS FINALLY FORMED WITH ACTUAL OWNERS WHO HAD BACKGROUNDS IN FINANCE, BUDGET PREPARTION & THE FACT THAT THE NEW BOARD VOTED THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE COMMUNITY. PLUS THE FACT THAT MEMBERS OF CCLA HAVE REQUESTED TIME & TIME AGAIN FOR AN ACCOUNTING OF VARIOUS FUNCTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE NEVER BROKEN DOWN BEFORE AS TO COST & RETURN. SO MUCH INFO ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS MANY THANKS TO THE NEW MEMBERS WHO MADE SURE THEY GOT ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDED TO KNOW.
ALSO THANKS TO THOSE CCLA MEMBERS ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHO ALSO WORKED HARD TO GET YOU THE INFO.

PAUL KRUGMAN

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Climate of Change


By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: February 27, 2009
Elections have consequences. President Obama’s new budget represents a huge break, not just with the policies of the past eight years, but with policy trends over the past 30 years. If he can get anything like the plan he announced on Thursday through Congress, he will set America on a fundamentally new course.

The budget will, among other things, come as a huge relief to Democrats who were starting to feel a bit of postpartisan depression. The stimulus bill that Congress passed may have been too weak and too focused on tax cuts. The administration’s refusal to get tough on the banks may be deeply disappointing. But fears that Mr. Obama would sacrifice progressive priorities in his budget plans, and satisfy himself with fiddling around the edges of the tax system, have now been banished.

For this budget allocates $634 billion over the next decade for health reform. That’s not enough to pay for universal coverage, but it’s an impressive start. And Mr. Obama plans to pay for health reform, not just with higher taxes on the affluent, but by putting a halt to the creeping privatization of Medicare, eliminating overpayments to insurance companies.

On another front, it’s also heartening to see that the budget projects $645 billion in revenues from the sale of emission allowances. After years of denial and delay by its predecessor, the Obama administration is signaling that it’s ready to take on climate change.

And these new priorities are laid out in a document whose clarity and plausibility seem almost incredible to those of us who grew accustomed to reading Bush-era budgets, which insulted our intelligence on every page. This is budgeting we can believe in.

Many will ask whether Mr. Obama can actually pull off the deficit reduction he promises. Can he actually reduce the red ink from $1.75 trillion this year to less than a third as much in 2013? Yes, he can.

Right now the deficit is huge thanks to temporary factors (at least we hope they’re temporary): a severe economic slump is depressing revenues and large sums have to be allocated both to fiscal stimulus and to financial rescues.

But if and when the crisis passes, the budget picture should improve dramatically. Bear in mind that from 2005 to 2007, that is, in the three years before the crisis, the federal deficit averaged only $243 billion a year. Now, during those years, revenues were inflated, to some degree, by the housing bubble. But it’s also true that we were spending more than $100 billion a year in Iraq.

So if Mr. Obama gets us out of Iraq (without bogging us down in an equally expensive Afghan quagmire) and manages to engineer a solid economic recovery — two big ifs, to be sure — getting the deficit down to around $500 billion by 2013 shouldn’t be at all difficult.

But won’t the deficit be swollen by interest on the debt run-up over the next few years? Not as much as you might think. Interest rates on long-term government debt are less than 4 percent, so even a trillion dollars of additional debt adds less than $40 billion a year to future deficits. And those interest costs are fully reflected in the budget documents.

So we have good priorities and plausible projections. What’s not to like about this budget? Basically, the long run outlook remains worrying.

According to the Obama administration’s budget projections, the ratio of federal debt to G.D.P., a widely used measure of the government’s financial position, will soar over the next few years, then more or less stabilize. But this stability will be achieved at a debt-to-G.D.P. ratio of around 60 percent. That wouldn’t be an extremely high debt level by international standards, but it would be the deepest in debt America has been since the years immediately following World War II. And it would leave us with considerably reduced room for maneuver if another crisis comes along.

Furthermore, the Obama budget only tells us about the next 10 years. That’s an improvement on Bush-era budgets, which looked only 5 years ahead. But America’s really big fiscal problems lurk over that budget horizon: sooner or later we’re going to have to come to grips with the forces driving up long-run spending — above all, the ever-rising cost of health care.

And even if fundamental health care reform brings costs under control, I at least find it hard to see how the federal government can meet its long-term obligations without some tax increases on the middle class. Whatever politicians may say now, there’s probably a value-added tax in our future.
But I don’t blame Mr. Obama for leaving some big questions unanswered in this budget.

There’s only so much long-run thinking the political system can handle in the midst of a severe crisis; he has probably taken on all he can, for now. And this budget looks very, very good.

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I did read the Adventurer and thought the letters by the president were well written. The cover letter requested we come together as a Community and respect each other, something we need to do. I've not heard any situations where the board president has been screaming and demanding, again if you have specifics, let us all in on the incidents so we can address the issues. I would not have a problem writting or calling the BOD if these theatrics are going on.
The second letter should not offend the CCLA, they filed the suit. I do agree the one person should not have been singled out but I don't know who he is. A property owner or CCLA attorney? It was stated budget information is available by request. I now know the board's view and where $9,000 of our money is going but the CCLA has not made their case public so I don't know what information was request, denied and why and if their suit is justified. Bylaws were referenced that preclude property owners access of specific information and I don't have a problem with that. If you do then you need to lobby to get the rules changed.
In reading the letter from the twsp I was made aware the lawyer has been in contact with the town and the twsp is now adamant they will not consider 12' wides until the water and electrical systems are up to code. Just because 12' wides have not been approved doesn't mean the attorney has been doing nothing. Unless you have valid information the accusation is unfounded.
Where's the Money? "the answer is right in your Adventurer - duh - did you bother to read it?" The Treasurer did a great job of itemizing expenses in four spread sheets. There is also a wealth of LA budget information on the LA website. I find the information in both places very easy to read and understand and don't need a more complex explanation of our expenditures. If you feel you need a further breakdown design a format you feel is acceptable and submit it to the treasurer. An anternate format may be easier for all of us to read and understand.
There is a good way for those who feel the management is not doing a good job for the community. Consider running for the BOD and turn the negative energy into a positive contribution.

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The President Berkey has a place to answer he did right in your Adventurer -duh - did you bother to read it- he does all the talking - just like former President's by screaming & demanding his way or the highway - If he would have answered the questions of where's the money then he wouldn't or I should say we wouldn't be paying for this overpriced lawyer - Bet CCLA didn't pay nowhere near what she is costing us. How about CCLA tell us how much they paid to their lawyer. LACA's lawyer will drag this out just like she is doing with the township to make the big bucks. Do you know of any lawyers who don't. How much has she charged so far for what she has done nothing and accomplished nothing with the township? another winner like the former lawyer the old board kept paying for what 6/7 years who managed to really screw everything up. The township must be as happy as clams to see us wasting our money.

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Hot topics today! The current board didn't turn "this beautiful community into a hell hole" since last summer, we've been in a downward spiral for years and anyone who has been here for a while knows that. A new PM isn't going to turn this place around overnight, it will take a year or two for him to get things on track as there are MAJOR long term projects that need attention. Overwhelming him with complaints and accusations of board members may just make him abandon ship. The new PM, who by the way has some impressive credentials, has a thin line to walk to gain the trust of property owners and the approval of board members. I believe I will give the new team (PM and BOD) some time to get used to each other's style of management, a chance to improve the community and the opprotunity to work on property owner/management relations. I'm optimistic this will be a better year at Lake Adventure.

anon -- well stated and right on the mark -- chipper

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Many complain they don't know where the money goes, well you now know where $9,000 is going. The BOD and President continually have their integrity questioned on this site yet don't have a place to respond. I try to be open minded and I'm happy to learn there are two sides to the story and the opinions on this site are not always the right ones. Our community is no different than any other with a management board. There would surely be chaos if there was no hierarchy in control. Like it or not we need management. Last election only about 20% of the owners voted suggesting apathy on our part. Blowing off steam on this site won't help unless we campaign to get the rest of the property owners interested in the future of the community.

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The community is in disrepair and has been for years. I'm not a construction engineer but my take is the community was not constructed with the highest quality equipment to begin with. If previous boards dealt with the repairs on an ongoing basis we wouldn't be in this mess. There are a lot of vague yet serious accusations made about the current board that has been in place less than a year. What bids have been given to family and friends in this short amount of time? What loans are at the highest interest rates and for the amounts we need we can we get lower rates that will offset any penalties? What decisions have been made to benefit only a few? We need new electric and water systems, how do you suggest we pay for them if not with dues? We have a limited season for making upgrades and the whole community cannot get upgraded in 6 months especially when the park is full of people in prime construction time. The budget is online. If anyone can get better prices and bids they should run for the board on this platform or at least provide the board with that information. If you can give specifics and prove your statements we all need to be aware of this misconduct. We should then consider taking appropriate steps to impeach specific board members

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Anonymous said...
Could someone please list who is up for re-election, so that we know who we should NOT vote for?

Anyone planning to run for Board should start introducing themselves on this blog. Let everyone become familiar with your views on how LA should be run and what changes you would strive to make well before the coming election. The more we know about a candidate, the better the chances are that property owners will remember his/her name when they are checking off the ballot.

February 26, 2009 10:49 AM

president low ratings???? still

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Well... someone has the b____s to stand up against the ruling few of Lake Adventure. The Board president did a fine job in the Adventurer of turning neighbor against neighbor and am glad someone, other then myself and a few others,realize what he has accomplished. To single an individual out because he would use his name to find out where the money is going is like s dictator in other countries, where is our American pride. If there are any pay-backs towards this individual does the board understand they will be liable and if not ask your great lawyer, who has done nothing for us, what she thinks. If there were not a lots of cans of worms abounding in Lake Adventure Berkey's letter will sure as hell stir up more. This boards few members that are trying to turn things around better take the prez to task before we have a revolution in the summer.The party who made the statement that it is time for new blood on the board instead of the same few hit the nail on the head!!!.... The new manager is going to have his hands full answering property owners questions this summer and can thank the board members who turned this beautiful community into a hell hole!!!!

president low ratings????

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As usual Mr. Berkey has decided that he should again incite property owner against property owner to get his own way and go the way of former board presidents who would make rules to benefit the few not the many, themselves, their friends, their family. Who cares if bids are not gotten for jobs, who cares if you don't have the right to vote on dues increases, who cares if they keep taking out mortgages at the highest rates or keep managers who ignore you the property owner asking where is the MONEY? Over 100% increase in dues in 5 years, who made money on contracts given to his friends, did he get kick backs, does the roof still leak on the clubhouse, don't you all like how wonderful the community looks. In the past this was a community that we were proud of what has happened to all the money collected where did it go. No answers from Mr.Berkey or other former board members who served for 3, 4, 5 year terms. His answer is to accuse property owners who only wanted answers to the question WHAT DID THEY DO WITH ALL THE MONEY? If answers were givin at open board meetings maybe there would not have been a need to form a committee to try & get the answers. What has happened to your right to vote on any major increase to your dues are you willing to let 7 people make the choice for you to raise the dues till you have no choice but to sell because you can no longer afford to keep your Lot? Your fellow members are only asking the questions that others are afraid to ask because then Mr Berkey can harass & incite others to do the same to you.

hydrants - bod

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HERE WE GO AGAIN, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER BY POINTING OUT HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED BY GETTING RID OF THE FORMER MANAGER & HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SAVED (IF ANY) SINCE HE IS NO LONGER HERE WHY WOULD WE EXPECT THIS BOARD PRESIDENT TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE FORMER TYRANTS THAT WE ELECTED TO SERVE AFTER ALL EASIER TO PICK ON THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT EVERY PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO AND TRY AGAIN TO INCITE OWNER AGAINST OWNER - THIS WAY HE DOESN'T HAVE TO ANSWER WHY YOU DON'T HAVE TO RIGHT TO VOTE ON YOUR DUES INCREASES OR WHY THEY CAN CHARGE YOU FOR SERVICES THAT YOU ALREADY PAY FOR IN YOUR DUES LIKE SUPPLY YOU WITH WATER WHEN YOUR HYDRANT NO LONGER WORKS. LETS SEE A NEW HYDRANT COST WHAT $50/75 AND THEY WERE CHARGING UP TO $1000 TO REPLACE /MATERIAL & LABOR? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOUR DUES ARE SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE MR. PRESIDENT. OH BY THE WAY THAT IS WHAT CCLA WAS ASKING. WHERE DID THE EXTRA MONEY GO THAT WAS OVERCHARGED?


ANON -- THE COSTS FOR HYDRANT REPLACEMENT IS VERY HIGH --- I'M NOT SURE IT IS JUSTIFIED AND SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE ENTIRE BOD --- YES YOU ARE A MEMBER OF A COMMUNITY THAT CLAIMS TO HAVE PUBLIC UTILITIES, ELECTRIC, WATER AND SEWER ( THE SIGN OUT ON 739 SAYS SO AND THAT MUST BE GOSPEL ) AND THEREFORE THE COMMUNITY SHOULD SHOULDER THE COST OF OPERATING AND MAINTAINING THESE SYSTEMS -- YOUR DUES SHOULD COVER THIS INSTEAD OF THE WASTEFUL PROJECTS THIS BOD EMBARKS ON EVERY SEASON -- (OVERPRICED BIDS FOR LATERAL REPLACEMENTS, ELECTRICAL GRID UPGRADES AND SOON LAUNDRY FACILITIES FOR THE SATISFACTION OF A FEW NESTERS THAT ALMOST (WINK WINK) NEVER LEAVE LA, MISAPPROPRIATION AND MISMANAGEMENT OF LA ASSETS OF LABOR AND EQUIPMENT (USING THEM FOR GRAVEL WORK AMONG OTHER THINGS)

THEY'RE MANY THINGS THAT THIS BOD IS INVOLVED IN AND NOT ALL ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY--- NEW PEOPLE NEED TO RUN FOR BOD SEATS -- PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SAT ON THE BOD BEFORE SO THAT NEW EYES CAN OVERSEE AND DIRECT LA AND THE NEW MANANGER-- IF NOT THIS BOD WILL CORRUPT THE NEW MANAGER BEFORE THE FIRST SEASON IS OVER!!!!!

obit updates

Anonymous said...

If the families of those people had a problem with their loved ones names being on the la website then let them say something about taking it down. Obviously the families are okay with it, so you should just get over it.

And if you actually knew any of the history of LA and were there in the good ole days, you would have known these people, because they were true community members who were there for the good of LA through good times and bad, and actually volunteered their time to make their community a better place.

Do you ppl just look for things to complain about?!?! Are you really complaining about obituaries?!? JEEZ.

anon -- if you feel the page is worthy of publishing then it should be kept timely and relevant -- annual updates are in order