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I believe I heard Appletree Mgt signs a contract with Eagle Lake to manage the community and employees and certain projects. The projects are to be be completed by a certain date, if project completion dates aren't met then monies are deducted. They are given an annual budget to manage and complete projects and if they go over budget depending on the reason they may or may not recoup the money from Eagle Lake. This includes managing property sales. This approach limits the BOD interactions with employees but they still need to be involved in decision making and expenditures. The board might do well to contact a few of the properties Appletree manages other than Eagle Lake to get an idea how effecient they are. Here is their services site that explains what they do. http://www.appletreemanagement.com/appletree/sub_category_list.asp?category=10&title=Services


anon-- yes management companies can provide professional services for customers -- if the customer writes a good contract and has a defined set of goals to accomplish with the mgmt. company these arrangements can be beneficial to the community -- in most cases they will be expensive and can result in ever increasing creeping costs if the bod doesn't know how to manage the contract (this will be a real challenge for this bod)-- but given the past track record here at la with picking incompetent managers and having weak and ineffective board of directors it may be an option and cost that is acceptable to the operation of the community and the members--- this is actually is a good option considering this bod and their inability to oversee and manage la in an effective manner

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Appletree Mgt successfully manages about 25 communities in the Poconos and heard they offered, for a price, to work with our former attorney in getting 12' wides approved. Now that we have a new attorney she should explore working with them and get the ordinance approved so we can be finally be done with paying an attorney retainer fee. I agree, the board should look into how Eagle Lake is run and consider what Appletree Management has to offer. I only use my property on weekends and maybe a week or two during the summer and would appreciate separate electric meters so I don't have to pay for those retirees who use utilities for 6+ months of the year. Wasn't a CCLA elected to the board? I realize she had to leave the group but it seems to me her loyalty will be to the Community and she'll not agree with unethical BOD decisions. Although she's only one person I'm optomistic things may start to change.

anon -- it may be difficult for one new member of the board to get anything done if the other bod members marginalize that individual or stonewall any ideas the new member puts forward -- but that doesn't mean the new bod member can't take off a few heads---also being a member of the bod doesn't mean you can't criticize the actions of those bod members that are incompetent or incapable to work to get things done for the betterment of the community-- new members owe nothing to these foot dragging bod members -- they owe their allegiance to the members that voted them onto the board and believe me their job is to raise hell, scream, tear off heads, and speak up to and point out the actions of the bod members that are blocking any progress -- if they can't do that then they shouldn't be on the board == also i thought i heard that the association has a rule that prevents board members from saying anything negative about la --- well that will hold up about as good as a paper bag will hold water--- the assoc. has other written rules that are not valid or legal -- they definitely need to review the printed matter they have out there and the rules, regulations, by laws and covenants before they get their ass in a sling

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where is eagle lake . how is it run better than la. i would like to go there and see. how it is run or is this just lip service from a few people that are not happy with la

on hiring a property member for manager i think it is a mistake you talk about retaliation . i think it should be an outsider with the qualifications and experience of a full time manager i think he should be checked out for job history and what he really knows about a running a park and the decisions should be the boards not a few property owners

tues-- web page

http://www.eaglelakeca.com/eaglelake/outside_home.asp

also listed in the far right column of this blog is a link to eagles lake

hurricane ike

the pictures coming in on cnn on the damage from the hurricane are simply devastating -- the coastal areas of the gulf really got wiped out-- the death toll may really be unknown for some time -- so many homes were completely washed away -- with the population scattered all over that part of the country it will be difficult to know who is missing -- sad situation

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if all you are saying is true why not give your name. why are the officers in ccla so afraid to use there name. if you want us to believe in you let us know who you are.

anon--- everyone associated with the bod and the management {?) team know who i am -- who are you anon?????

one reason is that a few people out there are vindictive, retaliatory, and lash out when they are protecting what they feel is their right, entitlement as a member or when they are taking the la community for a ride and don't want anyone messing up their gig -- there are a few kooks in the community and i know -- but i can assure anyone with any idea about coming after me that they will get much more than they may be looking for -- i guarantee it!!!! --others need to take the same attitude and not let anyone intimidate them -- keeping quiet doesn't help la -- if there's a problem in la it needs to be brought to light so concerned members can address it --if that was the situation in the past maybe la would be in better shape than it is now

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It seems like more property owners are concerned then you think. Spending has always been a problem in the past with previous boards and it seems this one may be following suit. As far as going bankrupt if you read the last financial report we should be stable, again, unless the BOD does some stupid spending.The BOD must work together and not worry about certain employees and property owners and make decisions fairly to ALL property owners. Everyone should also realize we employ the staff and they do not employ the owners.Also, with all the delays in choosing a property manager we should look towards Appletree Mgt. that runs Eagle Lake and if you're curious how good they are take a visit to Eagle Lake where their dues are lower then ours and the comeback from owners here will be they pay their own electric, well, the average electric bill is under $100 for a season. Before people think this would not benefit us think about someone who doesn't take input from owners who helped the board member get elected and is now looking for paybacks, if you don't think this is happening I know a bridge in NY that I can get you a good deal on.


anon---- yes i'll take that bridge -- what color is it? ---well i know that everyone thinks that the finances are stable and in good shape -- but remember a mill ot two isn't much -- a lot of people have that in a savings accounts or under their pillow-- today that's chump change -- la wastes money like no end --there are all kinds of areas that need a review at la -- everything from the staffing to the operations at la to the way the discretionary spending is controlled-- these are things that should be reviewed periodically on a regular basis and not only at times when finances are stressful--- operations continue unabated as if la operated at full tilt year round when in fact this community is a seasonal operation when 95% of all members visit in about 12 weeks of the summer -- during the rest of the year la should have operations cut back and staffing levels reduced to reflect the off season status-- everyone else in the poconos operates this way --why not la????? the members are literally providing a virtual welfare state for employees who have no work load or any fuctions that require full time status in these 40 weeks of the off season---- WHY????? because the bod can't make the right decisions or are afraid to make the tough decisions-- they are more interested in maintaining their board seats than tending to the la operations-- any change will bring about a screaming response from the 20 nesters who live at la almost all year ( wink -- wink) and these people want all services and all staffing avialable all the time -- if they don't get it they will go after the bod members who took away their operations and staffing -- they will wage a campaign against those members when the bod elections comes around--- it doesn't bother the nesters that other la members are subsidizing their lifestyle and virtual full time status here at la --and that this subsidy is wasting other member's money-- they're only interested in their self preservation of a very cheap lifestyle here at la -- not unlike welfare???---so changing anything at la is very risky for the board members-- so the chances that the bod will make the right decisions is slim to none

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BAD DAY !!!!!

TOUGH TIMES ????

the weekend is over -- it's monday and now 2 of the biggest financial institutions in the country have gone under -- lehmans and merril are gone joining bear sterns -- fannie and freddie are in receivership of the usa government-- aig is near death -- should be gone by next weekend - wamu and wachovia right behind them -- the usa financial market is having the worst time since the '29 market crash -- it has already attained a larger $ loss than '29 -- things are deteriorating and collapsing very quickly --

why is this important to la????-- well i believe la may have the worst financial emergency since la was created -- the dues receivables could very well be a disaster by spring -- there may not be enuf $ to pay for la --this bod needs to seriously begin to figure out how to operate la with a lot less income -- they need an emergency plan to be able to cut costs at la -- that will mean making tough decisions like what and where to cut -- operational schedules, payroll, discretionary spending, capital improvements and any other area where costs can be contained -- if they don't start planning now and begin to understand what they will do if la gets in trouble then if that happens then the board will be derelict in their duties and should resign en mass-- i have very little confidence -- in this bod -- many are incompetent and arrogant and i doubt they even understand the magnitude of what la could be facing-- the members may very well need to be ready to act in case the la bod fails in protecting la and the members interest -- over this winter we members need to keep an eye on them to protect our interests -- i will report about any actions that bod implements-- but don't put too much hope into that to happen with this bod--i would like to know what others feel about this issue and what you think could be done if la gets into financial trouble-- post a comment or email me at lachipper@gmail.com

NEW SEASON -- NEW SHOWS

MAD MEN IS BACK ON AMC EVERY SUNDAY EVENING -- THIS IS AN EXCELLENT SHOW I'M SURE YOU'LL ENJOY -CHECK IT OUT

WHEW !

was home 4 a few days and yesterday is was hot as can be -- so this morning i got up and came up to la -- what a relief -- hot here too but a lot lower humidity-- deck plants held up good --must have been some rain while i was gone - la looks fine -- really quiet - not many people here but as i said before the days after labor day are always pleasant and soon the leaves will turn -- then it's spectacular

haven't heard much except saturday the bod is interviewing manager applicants -- hmm -- more on that process later -- i have a special interest in this process and how this board proceeds on the manager matter -- don't hold your breath for good results !!!!!

here's some reading material for the bod

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PERJURY

- When a person, having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the U.S. authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; 18 USC

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MAY THEY REST IN PEACE

HELP LA SAVE MONEY

USE CFL BULBS IN YOUR TRAILER --- THESE BULBS SAVE A TON OF MONEY -- THEY'RE AVAILABLE AT THE BEST PRICES AT WALMART, HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S-- YOU COULD REALLY HELP LA CONTROL COSTS BY SWITCHING OVER ALL YOUR INTERIOR LIGHTING-- I DID WITH THE 12 LIGHTS IN MY TRAILER-- HEAR ARE 2 ARTICLES FROM THE CONSUMER DIGEST==== click on article to enlarge it

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These are some serious allegations and if the community is in such bad shape from mismanagement of money and the CCLA is willing to address the issues then we're lucky there is a group trying to create some checks and balances. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" and if those in charge are not held accountable whether it be for funds or community management we're doomed to stay a second class resort forever.
Don't know what lateral replacements are, sewer pipes or something? I thought I heard there was an eight year plan to get everything up to par and we were in year three. I can't comment on the termination of the manager since I don't know what breaches of ethics occured or what part the BOD played but certainly the manager's actions were done with board approval or he would have been out of here much sooner. If it was as bad as is indicated why wasn't the manager prosecuted or sued for restitution?
It's been two months since the new attorney was hired for the 12' wide ordinance. I think an update is in order. We sure don't want to support another attorney for five years of doing nothing. Quick notes to the BOD on a regular basis should be done by all participating in this blog. I've sent a few notes prior to the new attorney and was told any news would be posted on the web site. The only members who even know there is a new attorney or the manager was fired are the ones who attended the open meeting or log on to this site. I'd bet more than half the community doesn't know what's going on. Nothing was on the LA web site about it and now the news page is blank. Only a little blurp on the July meeting minutes saying the manager was terminated but no reason was given. Seems things are spirling out of control.

anom--- more like a rocket aiming for mars and crashing and burning in NYC

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I was at Eagle Lake and kids 14 yrs old are able to drive golf carts. I was a bit nervous driving my car with children buzzing around in the roads in open carts. If LA allowed them who would pay the insurance? I'm guessing the owner of the cart so LA wouldn't be liable. They could rule you have to be 17 and have a regular driver's license to be eligible to drive a cart on community roads.Heard the dues at EL are about the same but the lake is beautiful (the swimming areas, they have two, one on each side of the lake, and lake bottom are clean) and the lots are larger. Checked out Trails End and lots are about the same size however their dues for 2008 were only $1250 including water and electric. Both places allow 12' wide homes. LA's dues are higher and we have less and the old trailers are looking worse every season. Each year my lot is worth less, if 12' wides aren't approved for next season it may be time to consider making a move but I may not even get what I paid for my lot if I can sell it at all.


anon-- your right i also checked several other communities ( i have some listed in the right column and links to them when you click on the link address ) and the fees are less or about even and yes MOST have better features than la ---the problem with la is that for years no one and none of the boards have spent money to maintain the la facilities, infrastructure or to improve them -- they do not and did not have any long range plans to take care of this community over a multi year schedule -- and to be honest they don't have them now ---the lateral replacement program that the current board always refers to is dead in the water as this so called dedicated crew doing everything except lateral replacements-- who knows why -- surely this board doesn't have a clue---

this is the fault of the members also -- they don't insist on a level of service or a level of maintenance -- this is the problem now --members don't hold the bod responsible for the condition of the community-- when you have a do nothing and absent bod and a unqualified and weak manager this is what happens--

but la members don't even vote for the bod -- last time only 600+ members out of 2000 voted--with that kind of response from the members, they are forfeiting control of the bod to a third of the members-- same people -- same results--

so if anything is ever to get better the members need to get involved, vote, complain, insist and finally if they don't get improvements get rid of those responsible---the bod is viewed by most of the current bod members as an honorary position --- they don't see themselves as responsible for anything or have next to any involvement in the la operations --of course they're wrong --- la is 1 accident, 1 fine or 1 lawsuit away from disaster and this bod is responsible for any and all of these problems-- while their job is unpaid it does carry the legal responsibility for the la operations whether it is good or bad -- that comes with the title director

the community needs to be cleaned up (REALLY ) and the 12' wide issue needs to be pursued -- there is a new lawyer handling this issue but we haven't heard much -- that needs to be addressed -- i doubt that the holdup is the township --i think it is la not knowing how to proceed --after all that requires someone like the bod to make a decision -- hmm!!!

yes and the price of each members investment in their property is affected by the condition at la both physical and organizational

so anon -- if you want change talk to other members to get involved -- complain. insist, scream, let a few choice words fly, get involved and finally vote you financial interests when it comes time for voting for bod members -- it would also help if new people would run for the board-- recycling the same people only gets you the same results -- this sounds an awful like mccane/obama -- oh no mr bill!

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "reply": I think all board members should be part of CCLA..concerned citizens for the good of all of Lake Adventure not just a few close friends.Many people seem to feel that with Gary gone anything that went wrong just dump it on him, well if board members are so innocent join CCLA and help lower our dues instead of attacking. The suggestion that CCLA should take everything directly to the board, were you at the last meeting? Right off the bat, we're cutting the meeting short, guess there was a social event going on, and the look of boredom..Being on the board is a job to serve the good of all. I don't think it should be viewed as a club for fun and profit ..and I also feel anyone who can say prove it if you feel something is wrong, already knows there is something amiss and feels it won't ever come to light. That too is a misconception, as proven by incidents that led to the firing of the property manager. stop with the nonsense about CCLA costing LA money and take a look at the real facts.Mismanagement had to be done with the knowledge of some board members, we have more vehicles in here than a construction company..I could go on but perhaps it would be better for the staunch anti CCLA to look at some of what really has been going on..and guess what, if the dues come down because of the efforts of CCLA..all will profit.not just a few friends and family.I would also like to see a little more honesty with 50/50's funds from ice cream socials, kitchen receipts..what is this no mention at the last dance what the amount of money was, and a board member disappears with another person and the "gate receipts". Posted by Anonymous to LAKE ADVENTURE RV COMMUNITY BLOG OF THE POCONO MOUNTAINS PENNSYLVANIA at September 7, 2008 8:13 PM


anon -- i'm not so sure your the only one that feels this way-- others have expressed similiar concerns-- the relationship between ccla and the la bod needs to be improved -- the only way for that to happen is to have some conversations between the two parties to try to come to some common understanding on how to address each parties interests -- if that doesn't happen then each group will be at each other until something changes -- not good for either party and not good for la community-- but something will happen-- it always does in matters like this
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hey chipper checked out sites for eagle and trails end noticed golf carts are permitted with a reg fee why are they not allowed at la?seems la could uses the income also would cut down on dust and wear on roads.whats up with this?

north-- probably because no one on this bod wants them for their own use --- if they did they'd be here-- i assure you if one of them decides that they want one them they'll change the by laws and allow them--- so your task is to convince a sitting board member of the need for them to buy one or better yet maybe get a supplier to give them one then they'll be permitted--
they used to allow them at la but i don't know why they banned them -- my stepfather had one years ago but then they rescinded the privilege- there are pro and cons with golf carts but i don't know if it's any worst than the proliferation on these shiny black and shiny white trailers that are popping up all over la that members are using for storage (read the first 3 lines)--
OH NO!MR.BILL ! that can't be! ---you can't have 2 sheds so they allow these trailers which i hear SOME are using the portable trailers as garages for vehicle storage---- REALLY? -- that's what i hear--that's probably why they don't get rid of the construction trailer with a skid steer on it or the trailer with a race car-- can't make someone else stop doing something when you're doing the same thing--- hard 2 do--- well that's what i know -- maybe someone out there can shed more light as to why they are prohibited and let's face it no matter how convincing the argument would be for them and the fact that they're used all over that doesn't mean la will ever get them -- this is member issue and therefore will get very little consideration or brain power applied to the issue--- you can try though -- there is always hope

IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS !

IT'S RAINING CATS & DOGS

yes it looks like a full day of rain at la -- pool closed == club house open but not much else happening

i'm at the clubhouse using my computer -- but not for long -- i believe after october or november la is shutting down the wifi system ---- WHY ???? --- THE INTERNET IS THE PHONE OF 1950'S AND IT IS AN INDISPENSABLE PART OF MANY PEOPLES LIVES -- it is used for communication between families, shopping, research, news, education and entertainment -- it is the most economical way to pay bills and send messages -- no postage costs--but in the wisdom of the la management team ( whoever that is since there is no manager ) they are discontinuing it for the winter

la doesn't get it that the Internet is the communication tool of this time and today's people -- in fact if they were smart (?) they'd figure out how to use it in their business operations -- they would save money on postage, improve their ability to communicate information to their members and improve the performance of the la operations ( but don't hold your breath -- i don't think they can think that far or that deeply ) --
after all they only need to see what has happened in usa politics and see that the Internet has changed forever the way the usa will conduct elections in the future --- of course many would say it is not an improvement and they liked the game of politics before so many new people were involved and able to help shape the future of the usa--- actually maybe we could go back to 1950 -- it was so great then -- hmmmm!

so i doubt they would be able to comprehend this idea and see how the Internet could help run la for the better -- opps that's right most of those in charge think la is doing just fine and everything is honky dorky-- from their view with their heads in the sand it looks great !!!!

so if you use the wifi system at the clubhouse and want it through the winter you should call the office and register a very loud complaint and insist on this service through the winter email cheryl at info@lakeadventure.net
or call her at 570-686-2800

later i will have ways la can save money that la is spending in areas that is just plain mismanagement of asso. funds--- lots of it here -- that's for sure-- and maybe you are aware of other mismanagement and i'd sure be interested in knowing about it so we can share it with other involved members-- this is my email lachipper@gmail.com or ubfriend@aol.com ---
if we can save a few $ here and there maybe la could afford to keep the wifi going-- it's terrible the la management (?) is so shortsighted or in most cases blind or ignorant -- you take your pick

we need to get other members involved in this blog so we can track what is happening to la-- if we can communicate with each other and share our knowledge of all things la--we'll then know what's going on in the community and when things are wrong we can lobby the la board and management (?)-- heck if we're really dissatisfied we can be sure to recall this at time of the election of board members-- nothing sends a message better than changing out a few bod members ------
so talk to other members, email them, call them, write them and give them the blog address so we can keep in touch throughout the winter -- here's the address-

---http://www.lakeachippers.blogspot.com/


---chipper

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mureen moore pictures

well the link for the pictures mureen moore took of the crescent drive festivities is not working -- i receive an error message after several attempts -- i don't know why you can not get this album to view so i'll take down the link -- sorry - chipper

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HEY CHIPPER JUST WOULD LIKE YOUR OPINION ON THE MANAGERS JOB.IF SOMEONE IS QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB AND IS A PROPERTY OWNER IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE RULES OR REGULATIONS NOT ALLOWING THIS PERSON TO APPLY.THANKS 66BLUE.A

sot-- nothing in the rules --- this would amount to rejecting a qualified applicant for an indefensible reason and is not in the best interest of the la community--- after all a member would be more interested, even if it's for his own self preservation in the value of his property, to see that la was properly managed -- an individual off the street doesn't have that incentive and works strictly for the money -- members mean nothing to the manager -- example: gary-- who i'm sure most of the present board members had a hand in hiring -- so what does that have to say for their judgement in that selection--- we'll see where this leads to soon i guess

i've heard some lame excuses as to why this idea of having a member as a manger isn't viewed favorably but they have no valid reason to exclude a qualified individual-- some of the reasons were that as a member the manager would be able to retaliate against people he didn't view favorably--- like this isn't being done now by individuals who have an undue influence on the security services and use this service to retaliate, harass and try to intimidate others members they dislike --- or the member as a manager will have access to confidential information about la membership -- really -- i guess the membership rolls that the rv dealers are using for mailings just somehow magically appeared on their desks -- both of these examples are just excuses-- yes they happened --- but if the individual you're hiring has a strong employment history and background suitable for the position then you have some assurances that they also operate ethically and in a professional manner--

then again maybe someone off the street is what the bod wants-- who knows

cresent drive photos

maureen moore's collection of pictures from the cresent drive block party on saturday, 30 august are very nice -- there are some really outstanding portrait shots among the collection-- she did a very nice job --- take the time to view the entire slideshow since she has a variety of group shots also--- just click on the link on the right column comment

ps-- the link wasn't working earlier today -- hopfully i now have it fixed

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WHAT HAPPENED ?

SUMMER'S END !!!

everybody is gone -- really ---gustav is in the gulf not lake la -- but they all went home -- very successful weekend to close the summer season -- couldn't ask for more!

the rest of the year will be much quieter but it also is one of the nicest times of the year at la -- the weather is mild in the fall, the trees will start to turn and that's always spectacular -- it's also a great time to visit the many parks around la with waterfalls that are great photo opportunities for those who enjoy photography -- bushkill, child's park, shawnee and many others in the various parks around la -- here is a link http://www.trails.com/activity.aspx?area=15248 -- hiking trails are always beautiful when the leaves turn colors and are easier to navigate with the cooler days-- so while the summer is over la does offer nice weekend trips for the entire family ==so plan to spend a couple of more weekends at la ---later i'll post more information regarding weekend fall festivals in the la area

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CROWDS -- WOW !

yes it appears the season is going out with a bang for la --weather just great, people everywhere -- pool packed, kids having a great time riding bikes, people walking their dogs, moms, pops, grandparents and kids of all ages and picnics throughout the community-- members must have been saving up for the last of the season chance to have a good time and this is it --

just look at the crowd at the pool ! who would have believed it?

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BLOCK PARTY

cresent drive members had a rocking block party today --- they said this has been a 20 year tradition in their neighborhood--- it was great -- dj music, a band, food, drinks, ice cream and a bunch of people-- the street was lined with american flags on every property-- the tractor has a trailer for hay rides, kids were everywhere, people dancing, playing frisbee and street lacrosse and lots of yard parties going on in addition to the street party-- this is the type of activity that la needs more people to engage in, neighbors coming together and having a good time, engaged in a day of fun and socializing-- if la members shared some common interests it benefits the entire community-- as you looked around the neighborhood you noticed that most all the properties were very well maintained - a definite sign that engaged members take pride in their properties and their neighbors -- very nice day and congratulations to all those that worked to put on this neighborhood event

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ps --ANYONE GOT PICTURES THEY WANT TO POST JUS EMAIL ME FOR DETAILS

HURRICANE KATRINA - 3 YEARS

WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THE FAILURE AT NEW ORLEANS !

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if you were to take a licensed class on pool operations you would know that you have to close the pool to backwash the pool for about 30 min to an hour depending on the consistancy of the waste. Camelbeach actually closes their wave pool for about 30 min when this situation happens.


anon -- i agree -- but 30 to 60 mins is better than closing down the pool completely-- completely closing the pool is unacceptable -- members spend money to belong to la and when they come here they expect that the recreational elements will be available-- after all if they only are here for a week or two it is rather expensive at $2k per year and they expect la to operate

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BUSY BODIES !

why do some members seem to feel that they have the right and obligation to act as the enforcer of rules-- down at the club house there are a few people that constantly feel they need to correct or control children when they are standing on the bench seat or running or anything else they feel is wrong -- these kids are with their parents and you should stay out of their business and stop harassing them -- it is the parents responsibility to control their kids -- they of course only do it with kids and mostly mothers -- if a adult sits on the top rail of the bench no one says anything-- especially if its a man-- in fact some of the most serious infractions are caused by some men who are regulars or semi permanent members and they say nothing--parents can decide what, when, how and where a child can play and are capable of determining the safety issues related to their activities -- their excuse is the kid could fall over the railing-- yes they could but they can also be hit by a vehicle, slip and fall on the steps to the pool, drown in the pool, and any number of other things -- that is always out there --- stop harassing kids and parents and -- leave the members alone-- they should try to find something else to do with their lives

WEEKEND

well the holiday weekend is here-- weather is nice, sunny, mild temps and the place is ready for the seasons last holiday--pool open with plenty of families and yes you know when people get here by the dogs barking -- should be a good holiday

last week we had a few cool nights-- i was home for two weeks and when i got back i was shocked that some of my plants got hit by a cold snap--- this is august not october -- what happened to global warming????

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For your information security did go around the park with there loud speaker telling everyone to turn off your hot water heaters lake adventure has no water the second day they asked everyone to turn off their hydrants it was also posted at the gate and clubhouse I feel that security did a fine job with letting everyone know of LA situation. I was home both days and heard them MYSELF......Thankyou very much have a nice day......


anon -- yes i think they did a much better job with this problem -- they had bi lingual signs at the restrooms near me-- that is really a good improvement -- this was a difficult situation for the community and the la management team but i think both showed great cooperation-- much better than how the previous manager handled things (OH NO! MR. BILL ! MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A MANAGER?)

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It sounds like the issues described for an oversight committee are the responsibilities of a property manager. Hopefully the BOD will support the new property manager and will allow him/her to represent the entire community in an inbiased manner. A community help group would be beneficial for the summer vacation season but given the varied demographics of the property owners who would be members it may be difficult for them to operate the rest of the year.
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What happened at the pool? Can someone please explain? Thanks

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bill folz <billfolz@yahoo.com>tolachipper@gmail.com
dateThu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:30 AMsubjectcclamailed-byyahoo.comsigned-byyahoo.com
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I think that having CCLA members on the BOD is not a good idea they have cost us thousands of dollars with their trips to the Pike town and the attorney general. I think we should keep everything in house. why don't we create an oversight committee to gather information about problems in LA and go directly to the BOD. If CCLA thinks money is missing prove it and confront the BOD. In the mean time this committee could go directly to the BOD with problems like security, maint, unsightly sights, boats and cars stored on sights all summer. this committee should concern it self with saving us money not wasting it on legal fees. bill