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Thursday, January 29, 2009
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "email LISTS = SMART $ MOVE !!!! # 3":
I suggested the secure login on the website. It doesn't do any good to write letters to the BOD -- at least that's been my experience. I wrote to them in October regarding another matter that required an answer and they never responded. And I know they received the letter
anon ---- yes i have sent a letter to the bod president and he didn't even bother to reply --- communication is not something this bod is interested into getting involved with and probably don't even have a procedure to handle communication between the members, the office staff and the bod members--- i resorted to a registered letter to be sure they received my letter -- they got it and called me-- i should feel lucky and privileged
the community bod wants as little as possible exposure to the members and don't really care what your concerns or needs may be--- they have little to no time for this ----i guess you can keep trying and maybe they will get with the program -- BUT I DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN-- good luck and keep me posted ---- chipper
bod + secrecy + bully + constitution == yea!!!
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All the comments flying around about the public domain of the minutes not being password access protected is a mind blowing issue. Where does any board, or employer divulge threats issued to emplyees about tasks to be performed or your job is on the line!! This sounds like another example of Bullie type management which doesn't work in this day and age. The parties being threatened have a lot of resources for legal advice against their employers then in the past and there are a slew of lawyers that would jump on a case such as that. Plus, asking a job applicant why he passes remarks in an open blog format!!! Do the members of the board know of the first ammend. This is really turning into a joke with any body and their brother knowing whats gouing on at LA and I bet our sister communities are laughing at us. With posting our dues the other communities are only paying a third of what we pay with only two others paying over $1k!!! If property owners don't start doing something by either recalling the past two elections or requesting this board resign kiss your property goodbye. If someone told me when we purchased a short time ago this is what is going on here I never would have purchased, now, I probably could not get a buyer at any price because who would want to waste money on the place?? Our dues will go up, because the board seems to regulate that as they need money, and no one can afford it!!!...If outsiders ask me what I think of LA I would have to be honest and say stay away, or try to sell them my lot. Anybody looking for a lakeview property??
anon -- i agree with you that the approach by this bod is rather disturbing (some members of the bod are good representatives for the members === BUT THEY ALL STICK TOGETHER AND THEREFORE MAY HANG TOGETHER ) -- they seem to feel that they can operate and do what they want as long as the members don't find out and they don't get caught ( like a lawsuit or other legal action )but sooner or later the members may be faced with a settlement, fine, financial disaster, or any number of other legal or financial entrapment-- this could be the affects from having a bod that is arrogant, incompetent, inexperienced in management principles, tends to operate on the fringes of rules and regulations that all are responsible for maintaining and abiding with in order to do business in this day and age--
--the members are not informed and most don't know what's going on with the management of la-- this is a task that i hope will be addressed with this blog-- more members need to participate and register their concerns and problems with the way this bod is running their community-- word needs to get out to your neighbors and friends in the community to join in -- after all i post all comments -- good or bad, pro or con on any subject-- again my emails are lachipper@gmail.com or ubfriend@aol.com
hopefully this season more members will join in -- informed members will then be able to determine the future of la instead of letting a few members of bod to run amok-- let's see what happens--
--again thanks for your comment ---- chipper
Wednesday, January 28, 2009
secretive bod #2
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I think you got the wrong impression as to what a secure ID is used for. I don't believe our finances should not be floating around the Internet. Publicizing certain information may compromise the successful outcome of projects especially with the township. No one is suggesting the board is participating in covert and illegal operations and that it should be covered up. There is a reason Eagle Lake and other communities have a secure site, so no one sees their laundry. For instances, if some are late with dues and it's comes up during a board meeting there is no need to publically embarrass people by putting it in the minutes and then on the website. There needs to be some ethical discretion in what is published on a non-secure website vs what can be displayed on a secure site. A secure site should eliminate secrecy not promote it as you suggest.
anon -- your right on the individual financial data needs to be confidential and should be, all member data is highly confidential-- there is never an excuse to dissiminate this type of info just as the personnel files are off limits -no community member should have access to any of type of information just because he is a member -- knowledge of this information doesn't accomplish anything in a members ability to understand the la operations-- you have a right to understand the overall view of these catagories such as how many members are in default, what is the cost for labor for each employee segment--- but there is never a need for or should be allowed the individuals details -- i thought most people understood that managers or directors would never divulge this type of data-- i guess i may be wrong---
-- chipper
secretive bod
the bod meeting minutes should reflect what the bod is discussing in regards to the community business -- if the bod is engaged in any actions or conversations that are they not able to be discussed in public then they are on a slippery slope AND SHOULD NOT ENGAGE IN THIS ACTIVITY -- the community business should never have to be done in secrecy except in closed sessions to discuss personnel matters ( IRONICALLY THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM PUBLICLY THREATENING WORKERS FOR NOT PERFORMING UP TO THEIR PERCEIVED STANDARDS OR PERCEPTION OF THE WORK ACCOMPLISHED EVEN THOUGH THEY AREN'T DIRECTLY SUPERVISING NOR MANAGING THESE WORKERS-- this could lead them to some real labor problems )
as a member i would not want nor expect nor condone the bod to engage in any activity or discussion that can be illegal or inappropriate or need to be done secretly--- openness is the best way to stay out of trouble with everyone including the community members--- if this bod feels it needs secrecy then it's time they get off the board before la gets into a legal mess
-- chipper
email LISTS = SMART $ MOVE !!!! # 3
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I like both ideas. A secure website is really needed, there is no reason why any and everyone including the township should be able to access LA's financial info as well as board meeting minutes. The ID could be any naming convention such as your last name and address:
SmithCreekview. This could develop into an administrative nightmare given the large number of property owners.The ID could be the same for everyone as long as it's kept safe. Does anyone know someone at Eagle Lake? How is their's set up? Being able to pay dues online might take some time to set up but once activated it would save the Office time in the long run. Getting e-mail updates is another great idea,inexpensive and fast. Those who are not interested don't have to respond with an ID. However, if there is a secure website there wouldn't be a need for e-mail but it would be a quick fix until a secure site could be set up. These are two good ideas that should be submitted to the board for official consideration.
Either one of the idea people willing to send a letter?
email LISTS = SMART $ MOVE !!!! # 2
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Another way to keep members informed: take a look at the Eagle Lake website. Property owners have to register and log in to pay their dues. LA should also set up a secure section on their website that owners would have to log into. This could be used for sensitive material to be shared by property owners only. Ability to pay dues online might also help to improve delinquency payment situations.
anon -- development of a member email list would be a cheap way for the manager or the bod to inform members of various happenings in the community -- everything from rule implementations, rules enforcement programs, activity schedules and highlights, general community news items, action notices such as electrical and lateral upgrade schedules and etc and etc-- the possibilities just goes on and on --this would be a way to save money for postage by sending out the adventurer via email and allow for greater communication for some of the above sample actions.--- all companies and organizations have developed and maintain email lists for employees and customers and use them effectively-- now can this bod see the advantage of this type of program???? i doubt it!!!!! based on their past actions they aren't very good at managing organizations and handling the details of this community--nor do they have a strong interest in letting the members know anything that is happening with la's business-- this bod is of the mushroom school of thought " that if we keep them in that dark and feed them crap" we'll be a lot better off!!!
-- chipper
Tuesday, January 27, 2009
EMAIL LISTS = SMART $ MOVE !!!!
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I log in frequently and voice opinions but don't think this is the appropriate forum for the BOD to reply. It would get into a war of words and the response of one member may not be the concensus of the whole board. I'm happy we have a place to share information and I'm sure by now the board has a good idea of where we're coming from and has gotten some good information and possibly some good ideas. I think for the most part they (BOD) may be operating for the good of the community but need a way to share information with us especially during the off season. I realize for security purposes not all relevant information can be posted in the meeting minutes but we as paying members have a need to know. How about LA taking the initative of setting up a group e-mail ID for those of us who are plugged in and would like updates on a regular basis? The initial cost would be the time to send out a letter requesting e-mail ID information (it could go with the mailing of the Adventurer) and the time to set up the ID. Hate to assign more work to Cheryl but she seems to be computer savy and could do it easily, a one time shot. Then all she would have to do (or anyone else in the office) is type up sensitive information that can't be displayed on the website and shoot it off. Would sure make me happy. Of course there are a lot of retirees who probably don't use a computer but as the demographic changes more and more owners will be online so we'd be keeping up with technology. The fact there is now wifi onsite indicates management is aware how many of us rely on computer communication.
MEETING MINS./PROJECTS
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The minutes from the October 18th Board Meeting are finally available on the LA website for anyone interested.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "WATER ADVISORY":
The cold weather is wreaking havoc on many old water lines so this problem is not unique to LA. Several towns in my area are having the same problems and we're not in the mountains. What year are we (LA) in regarding the 8 yr plan and how many more years until the electrical and water lines will be done? We may complain about the problem but at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad the BODs 10-12 years ago didn't start planning for this sooner. Until these two major (time and $$$) projects are completed not much will get a priority, rightfully so I guess.
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I am not a frequent reader of Chipper, as a matter of fact today was the first time, but it is really something how people remark about the board and how they are running things and NOT ONE BOARD MEMBER RESPONDS!!! i have been in business for many years and cannot believe that someone doesn't try to defend themselves or their actions. From what I can assume from the blogs Lake Adventure is headed for disaster with all the problems and in fighting and with our present economy how many property owners will pay their dues before their car payments which will spell financial ruin with no dues. People request new blood on the board but no one steps forward and the same people stay on for years and do not improve their actions or ideas so how can we improve!!! It looks like change must happen with the board, as has been suggested, resign and have a fact finding group organize and try to salvage what's left. People mention CCLA, who are they ? Maybe this group of people can accomplish something because the board doesn't seem to be able to. The eight year plan with no dues or a low percentage of dues is going to destroy the structure of LA financially and it will never regain. Property owners better come forth!!!
anon -- thanks for your comment and hope you check out the blog on a regular basis and contribute your thoughts in the future -- your right a lot of things are wrong with la and this bod is clueless or are just unable to run la -- la needs a qualified experienced professional manager to run la ---this bod can not do this because they don't have the management experience or the time necessary to dedicate to the community's needs--hell they actually have no qualifications to be sitting on a bod -- election to the bod is a beauty (hee! hee!) contest and not based on factors that would benefit the community--- that is why la is heading downward and will soon may well be is real trouble financially with the current economic conditions in the country-- but again this is a concept that is beyond this bod -- oh well!!! members better wake up!!!!!!!!!!!
--- chipper
Saturday, January 24, 2009
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Your comments about the board being the problem and not Gary seem to be right on!! In all due respect Gary could do nothing without the board approval and with the bullies on the board how would you respond in his shoes??? No matter if a manager and compliance officer are hired they will only be granted the authority given them by the board so unless we have a new board, and not former members who have enough friends to elect them, nothing will change. All the board members got their up grades in sewer, electric etc so why don't they just resign!!!
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As Chipper has said all along, nothing will change if all we do is write about it here. I've written numerous letters since last spring while Gary was still here and have not gotten a response to one of them since Gary left. Maybe Gary wasn't the problem as the board would have us believe,maybe they're the problem and have been all along. We all need to start making weekly calls to LA so Cheryl can let the Board know how dissatisfied we are. If we don't get any information we need to start calling the attorney so she can let the board know we want information. Even if all you get when you call is "there is no new information" ask about specific items. "I'm calling about the status of the 12' wide ordinance and what steps the attorney has taken since being hired seven months ago?". "I'd like to know why a property manager has not been hired?" "Who is prioritizing the work, the vacation and over time schedules? Who has taken on the compliance work? Who is responding to the township/DEP regarding ordinances? Who is signing paychecks and validating project compliance?" I'm sure all are doing their own particular job well but we need an overseer who has a grasp of the whole community. I'd hate to resort to calling the board members at home but if we don't start getting information and answers we may have to resort to that. These people voluntered to run for office and they may be doing a decent job but they are not releasing any information so we can only surmise the worst. Relaying information via the timely publishing of board meeting minutes (were there meetings in Oct and Nov?)and current updates on the LA website would go a long way to squelch rumors.
anon -- your right in all cases -- this bod is not providing any management of la's affairs -- this bod needs members replaced starting with the next election -- also we need NEW members to run for the bod -- see if you can talk to your friends and neighbors in the community and maybe we can recruit new people to run -- ps no experience needed--- after all this board has shown it has no talent to run this community!!!
-- chipper
Thursday, January 22, 2009
water break !!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "12' wide issue":
Well we had a water main break at LA, what board member was up there to supervise the repair?? Still no manager and we have problems that have to be resolved by employees!!! It is really time to do something about this board and their dragging their feet on matters that concern everyone who owns at LA and pays dues like hiring a manager. Sure a manager couldn't stop a water break but he would've been there to supervise the work. This is starting to look like we are doomed on anything positive coming to LA and we can thank this and the previous board for the state we are in. Don't post blogs on how great past board members were about attending township meetings what did they accomplish?? As far as 12 wides we can forget it because with the infrastructure in shambles they will NEVER grant us the change so just prepare yourself for the place to go down or as i am sell!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "new neighbors ????":
I bet the township wouldn't mind if LA went the way of the boy scout camp. We need to get serious about our finances to make sure that doesn't happen.
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12' wide issue
the 12' wide issue is another example of where this bod has dropped the ball again-- they removed the legal counsel, engaged new counsel and then let the issue die---why -- because they are not able to devote the time necessary to handle the time constrains for this issue -- working one day a month is not going to advance this project-- hell it isn't enough time to handle the day to day operations of the community-- a capable manager is required to move this issue forward with aggressive knowledgeable legal counsel-- the last point i'm aware of is that the township presented an proposed ordinance that would allow 12' wides with some new requirements -- la was to counter to the township proposal with any issues that la needed addressed-- that is as far as it has progressed --if this is the situation then the ball is in la's court and la needs to get moving-- this bod can't do that-- when tom annunziata was the bod president he attended the township meetings and some progress seemed to be evident-- now that art bergey is the president it is a dead issue -- who's at fault here??????? perhaps the bod needs a new president that has the time to give to this and other issues before the community
replacement of worn out and dated housing is important to any community in order to maintain property values-- communities with derelict housing soon become depressed and properties are abandoned and not maintained-- this is occurring at la now -- with about 150 to 200 properties no longer paying dues and probably not being maintained -- la is moving toward a slum community status-- that's bad for those who value their property and the financial investment they have in la--
another reason for members to get involved and protect their investment-- new people need to step forward and run for the bod-- i will continue to try to organize members and collect emails for members so a bank of concerned members can be compiled and used to send out info on possible bod candidates and decimate their opinions on issues that are important to the community---- help me with this project and maybe we can get something started at la !!
---chipper
new neighbors ????
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Below is an excerpt of something I found on the Internet. A development company received approval to build 199 new homes across the street from LA having a much bigger impact on the environment than us getting approval for another 3 1/2 feet for above ground housing. LA has wasted so much time on this the township doesn't take us seriously anymore.
Conditional okay for Rock Hill Estates land use - Some 2,000 new road trips seen daily for the area
DINGMAN — Developers of Rock Hill Estates, a proposed 199-lot subdivision on state Route 739, opposite Lake Adventure, were before the supervisors Tuesday seeking approval for the intended use of the former 400+ acre boy scout camp.
Rock Hill Estates was represented by Hawley attorney, Leatrice Anderson and Director of Engineering, Kristy Coulter of Baucher & James, Inc. of Stroudsburg.
In question was whether a traffic study was conducted in order to determine the number of trips expected per day. Other concerns were whether community facilities and amenities, a school bus shelter, sewage treatment, a maintenance facility, beach and boating area as well as the proposed security guard house would meet township requirements.
“This public hearing is not about approval of any final plans but rather approval of the intended use of the land as a subdivision,” said Town Solicitor John Klemeyer.
“Our independent traffic study firm has determined that there will be an expected 1,967 vehicle trips per day,” said Coulter. The study is currently being reviewed by Penn DOT (Pennsylvania Department of Transportation).
Anderson posed some generic questions to Coulter to help frame details of the proposed facilities to be built in the subdivision. Coulter indicated on a map of the subdivision the location of the facilities and indicated they all would be constructed in accordance with township building construction ordinances.
12' wide informative comment !
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I'll give what info I have on the 12' wide situation. All other communities have approval to have them except LA. They are built better structurally and with better insulation so less money to heat and cool and don't have tip outs so you won't have to worry about leaks. Almost six years ago LA went to the twsp to get approval to be able to have them on site but didn't have legal representation and were not prepared to present their case. Since then they hired an attorney(s) and presented a case to the twsp including witnesses regarding environmental impact, etc. The twsp replied with some requests to the ordinance LA didn't agree with and since then (last January) no one has persued the issue. Many are waiting to purchase new trailers but are reluctant to get another tipout when 12' wide are now the standard. It is my understanding that 12' wides are tenatively approved with some stipulations, lofts were one problem but LA already has documentation that HUD said lofts don't count as floor space so they can dispute that point. The new attorney, Tammy Lee Clause, is very well regarded in the community and is a good choice however without a manager to represent LA she doesn't have much to work with. I don't think we should expect the Office to take on all the tasks a manager should do unless they get promoted. The BOD is not around on a regular basis to interact the attorney in this case. There was supposedly a meeting in early Sept with the attorney to discuss the issue but no information appeared in the Sept board minutes and questions regarding the status have gone unanswered. Maybe if the Oct and Nov board minutes are published we will see some information. LA is a great place for family fun but as owners and trailers get older and older it will be difficult to attract a new generation if we look like a junkyard. I'm a senior citizen and I need to get a new trailer but if I'm going to spend $40,000+ I want a 12' wide. LA get $250 for every new trailer bought from Total Recreation, you would think that would be motivation enough to get this ordinance passed.
CCLA call home !
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Chipper, you are around the community almost as much as a PM and would be a good choice to run for the board. If not the BOD, I'd give another shot at PM and see what reason they give you for considering or not considering you for the job.
Last month on 12/24 Eduardo Garcia wrote a very informed message with some very good ideas. If you are reading this Eduardo, consider running for the board, we could use someone like you.
I'm also interested in the CCLA. One person isn't able to do much but if we band together to work for improvements we will be taken more seriously. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the group?
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DOES THE BOD GET ALONG.........
MAYBE THEY ARE FIGHTING BETWEEN THEMSELFS....
I AGREE THAT NOT MUCH IS BEING DONE TO IMPROVE LA AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RUN LIKE ANY OTHER SMALL TOWN. WE NEED COMMITIES TO TAKE ON PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE DONE RIGHT AND COST EFFECTIVE.
I DONT THINK GARY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BETWEEN THE LADIES IN THE OFFICE AND THE MEN IN THE MAINTANCE DEPARTMENT THEY ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, SOMEONE JUST NEEDS TO PUT IN CHARGE AND BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS..
LAST BUT NOT LEAST.....
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE WHOLE 12" TRAILER THING GOING ON.........
Thursday, January 15, 2009
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Seems more people are of the same mind that the board can't reply to any questions because they have no idea about what their duties as board members are!.... The board seems to get elected on a popularity vote and how much bull___ they can feed the members. Look who's on the board and for how many years they've been there and you don't have to be an Einstein to figure out why LA is in the state it is. If we are in business by the end of this year and not bankrupt, the way they're spending money, it might be a miracle. All property owners better start banding together to save our investment or else use the loss as a write off on 2009 taxes as a casuality loss.This isn't funny any more with no manager, code officer a board which is none factor and leaving the operation up to underpaid employees, how long do you think they will perform with the way the board treats them. This board had some pretty interesting resumes to get elected and look what a state we are in with their guidance. If I worked like that in my job I would've been fired long time ago1 Maybe a group should start, by the blogger, to demand answers for where our money is going or look into this group everyone wants to throw stones at CCLA and maybe they can help save our campground
ANON -- YES LA HAS PROBLEMS AND THEY DIDN'T START RECENTLY -- THEY STARTED YEARS AGO UNDER OTHER BOD'S WATCH -- THE PROBLEMS HAVE ACCELERATED AND BECOME EVEN WORSE UNDER THIS BOD'S WATCH -- THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT LA HAS BEEN DETERIORATING FOR MANY YEARS -- THE UTILITIES SUCH AS WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRICAL GRID ARE WORN OUT AND OVER TAXED -- THEY HAVEN'T BEEN UPGRADED OR MAINTAINED SINCE THEY WERE INSTALLED -- THE BOD SOLD THE MEMBERS A PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS BUT IT HAS BEEN A COMPLETE FAILURE-- THE SCOPE OF THE WORK AND THE PROGRESS OF WORK HAS BEEN INADEQUATE TO THE MONIES BEING SPENT-- THIS BOD IS PISSING AWAY THE MONIES FOR THESE PROJECTS--
THE COMMUNITY IS IN TERRIBLE PHYSICAL SHAPE-- QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES ARE RAMPART WITH DERELICT TRAILERS AND PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T MAINTAINED FOR YEARS ON END--
THE EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING UNSUPERVISED AND WITH NO DIRECTION-- NO MANAGEMENT FOR OVER HALF YEAR AND NO SUPERVISION OF THE OPERATIONS -- THE WORKERS ARE NOT AT FAULT -- THEY ARE TRYING THEIR BEST WITH THE LITTLE THEY HAVE TO OPERATE WITH
THIS BOD IS RUNNING LA INTO THE GROUND -- THE FINANCES MAY VERY WELL HEAD SOUTH WITH THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IN THE COUNTRY YET THE BOD HAS SHOWN NO LEADERSHIP IN TRYING TO CONTAIN COSTS OR CUT COSTS-- THEY HAVE NO APPARENT CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR OPERATING WITH FINANCIAL CONSTRAINS-- THEY DEFINITELY HAVE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO TO EXERCISE ANY FISCAL CONTROL --
THE MEMBERS NEED TO START TO FIND NEW PEOPLE TO RUN FOR THE BOD -- THE SITTING BOD CROP IS NOT HIGHLY REGARDED AND HAVING PREVIOUS BOD MEMBERS RUN AGAIN IS NOT THE ANSWER -- IF THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN THE PAST WHY WOULD THEY DO ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE????
I AGAIN SAY I AM TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A EMAIL LIST OF MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE INFO ON POSSIBLE FUTURE BOD CANDIDATES AND THEIR POSITIONS ON ISSUES -- I ALSO INVITE ANYONE WITH OPINIONS TO SEND ME THEIR COMMENTS SO I CAN PUBLISH THEM FOR THE COMMUNITY -- IF WE CAN DEVELOP A DIALOGUE AMONG MEMBERS PERHAPS WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MEMBERS WANT IN THE FUTURE
MY EMAILS ARE lachipper@gmail.com or ubfriend@aol.com
--- CHIPPER
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
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It seems a lot of people who are involved with Lake Adventure -- property owners, staff members, etc. -- partake in this blog. So I think it is safe to assume that even board members occasionally (if not regularly) read the comments left here.
Why in God's name, then, don't they answer questions/concerns or squash any rumors with the REAL FACTS by commenting on this blog themselves????? Yes, this is not an "official" LA site but if they cannot provide us with the information and answers on the "authorized" or "official" LA website or send out more newsletters to keep us informed, what better way than to participate on a blog that so many of us read?
How could NOT ONE OF THEM have any answers or comments to make? Why wouldn't EACH AND EVERY one of them want to communicate with the community members and address their concerns?
anon -- the official web page for la is always out of date and besides never has any real news--- no one from la replies because they don't want anyone to comment officially or unofficially about anything-- this bod believes they should be allowed to operate out of sight and in secret -- the less members know and the less they can communicate with each other the better it is for this bod -- after all when you are performing so poorly for the membership you don't want anyone to talk about this poor performance-- this blog is for the members to communicate and offers all a place to register their thoughts and feelings about la -- good or bad -- hopefully more people including la spokesmen will join in -- this summer i hope more will take the time to let their neighbors and friends know about the blog and we can get more participation from more members-- informed and involved membership is GOOD for la
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I'm thinking there is a reason the board isn't publishing the minutes from Oct and Nov. Perhaps they don't want to publish what little they're accomplishing. It's a disgrace we're not able to get operation information in a timely manner. I've been at LA for a long time and this is the first time I've been so misinformed. It's now the middle of January and we don't know what is going on as far back as October. This is a community we support and are entitled to information on how our money is being spent. I may be off base but my perception is not only is this board not productive they seem to be counter-productive. Almost seven months and no management? Why would you fire a manager without a plan to replace him? Things are backing up and they can't use Gary as a scape goat anymore. This was a very bad administrative move and indicates, contrary to their resumes, we have elected very inexperienced board members. They also hired a new attorney to work the 12' wide issue. When will they take that matter to task? This is going on six years and not one board in six years has been able to give this a priority and get it passed? Hopefully "The Adventurer" that is being published next month will be full of information. Thanks to Cheryl et al for keeping the place running.
anon -- your right on all the issues -- new bod members are needed -- the same old brings the members the same old -- we must get new people to run for the available seats --- get anyone interested and have them send me their emails and i'll start a bank of emails so we can send out info for members who want to run -- it may be a start -- email me at
lachipper@gmail.com or ubfriend@aol.com
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Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Saturday, January 10, 2009
HELP !!!!
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "watch out she's mad as hell !!!!":
Does anyone know the date of the next open board meeting?
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Friday, January 9, 2009
watch out she's mad as hell !!!!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "manager":
Hi Chip! Oh, lets just all vote you in as manager already and be done with this nonsense! Who has the time really?? Obviously, you care a great deal for the future of LA, so it's just so simple...doesn't take much thought. What's the REAL prob?
Anyway, just wanted to say that the plowers did a stand up, super-fantastic job these past few days!!
And I really liked the snow man on the new LA flyer. It was so nice to mention the passing and loss of the obviously well loved gentleman, who passed away from the LA community.
Today is fri 1/9 to be clear and I was most happy with being able to drive safely in and out of LA to check on things. Plowed, gritted and maintained roads made me more then happy! Thanks Guys!
;)
Did hear a few gun shots way too nearby and the deer family ran away behind my lot from the shooter!!!!
I waited for the shooter to come by, but I didn't see him this time, what a shame, I had such a present for him.
Must admit, I am a most friendly gal, but when and if I catch the SOB shooting,(thisclose)to my trailer...your gonna eat that gun you hear me! (oh, and I know it's unfortunately, an LA property owner)
Leave the deer in LA alone, it's the only refuge they have, if you can't hunt like a man where it's legal, then give up your gun to a real man or woman who knows how to hunt responsible, ya coward!
Have a nice day Chip!
PK
pk -- good luck with YOUR hunting -- you're right it's doesn't take much of a hunter to shoot animals in a refuge -- BIG MAN that is for sure!!!!!
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Thursday, January 8, 2009
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "unhappy in la !!!!!":
WoW !! No one to mind the store? Does the board expect Cheryl to run everything until they decide to hire someone?? Are they going to pay her and the other girls in the office and Doug accordingly for what they expect them to do? This is really a disgrace that it's almost 7 months and still no manager and now no code officer. What is this board thinking?? They should make Cheryl the manager , she has been doing the job since they fired Gary, and move on to try to make aure LA survives
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Wednesday, January 7, 2009
unhappy in la !!!!!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "waiting":
With the board having to decide on two positions do you think it will be made by December or November? With the way they are playing around with the managers position, and not caring about how our money is going out the door, do you really think they , on a whole care, are really interested in the good of LA or again only their personal gains, which they all have already in electric, sewer and road upgrades. I hope evryone remembers the circus that is going on at election time and does something about the mess we are in. If you think this is bad now just wait until the summer when people are disgusted with the way things are or are broke and dues are not coming in watch for people just to walk away from the properties and the few left will have to pay all the bills. This board is destroying everything that was good and attracted people to LA so we all must bear the pain. REMEMBER AT ELECTION!!!!
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "quiet":
I'm waiting for the Oct and Nov board meeting minutes to be published to see what's been going on. I think things must be busy as there are now two management job openings. If the two jobs are merged together as I think I read was going to happen I wonder if the job description and salary will reflect the change. It will be interesting to see who is up for re-election when the news paper is published next month. My pen is ready to fill out the ballot.
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Some Current News from the LA site:
THE LACA KITCHEN/STORE IS AVAILABLE FOR LEASE. THE PRICE FOR THE SEASON IS $2,000. PA FOOD HANDLERS LICENSE AND LIABILITY INSURANCE A MUST. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, CONTACT CHERYL @570-686-2800. MARCH 1ST IS THE DEADLINE.
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
Sunday, January 4, 2009
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Thursday, January 1, 2009
JOE BIRRELL
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Hello Chipper -- This is Rick Birrell, Joe Birrell's son. I apologize for the inconvenience, but was wondering if the blog posting of Jan 1, 2009 could be amended as follows. There could be legal ramifications stemming from my original post as I will be taking legal action in the matter of my father's estate. I've also omitted my home phone #.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Rick
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Hello Chipper,
My name is Rick, I am Joe Birrell's son.... don't know if you were at the memorial service for Dad at St. Vincents where we may have met. My wife Gemma and I had the honor of meeting several of my Dad's co-workers and friends from Lake Adventure at the service and were deeply touched by the outpouring of sympathy for Dad.
I've received a package from 1-800-Flowers which contained a garden greenery plant from the Lake Adventure Board of Directors and fellow employees. We wanted to sincerely convey our deepest gratitude for this beautiful gift.
Again, I wish to convey my appreciation for all the kind people of Lake Adventure. If interested, I have started a memorial web site which can be visited at the following URL (requires registration in order to leave comments/tribute): http://www.imorial.com/josephbirrell/
I can be reached as follows:
Richard J. Birrell
2050 68th St.
Brooklyn, NY 11204
phone: (718)
email: richardbirrell@aol.com
With Warm Regards,
Rick Birrell
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