WHEW !

was home 4 a few days and yesterday is was hot as can be -- so this morning i got up and came up to la -- what a relief -- hot here too but a lot lower humidity-- deck plants held up good --must have been some rain while i was gone - la looks fine -- really quiet - not many people here but as i said before the days after labor day are always pleasant and soon the leaves will turn -- then it's spectacular

haven't heard much except saturday the bod is interviewing manager applicants -- hmm -- more on that process later -- i have a special interest in this process and how this board proceeds on the manager matter -- don't hold your breath for good results !!!!!

here's some reading material for the bod

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DEFINITION

PERJURY

- When a person, having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the U.S. authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; 18 USC

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keeping an eye on you !

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MAY THEY REST IN PEACE

HELP LA SAVE MONEY

USE CFL BULBS IN YOUR TRAILER --- THESE BULBS SAVE A TON OF MONEY -- THEY'RE AVAILABLE AT THE BEST PRICES AT WALMART, HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S-- YOU COULD REALLY HELP LA CONTROL COSTS BY SWITCHING OVER ALL YOUR INTERIOR LIGHTING-- I DID WITH THE 12 LIGHTS IN MY TRAILER-- HEAR ARE 2 ARTICLES FROM THE CONSUMER DIGEST==== click on article to enlarge it

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These are some serious allegations and if the community is in such bad shape from mismanagement of money and the CCLA is willing to address the issues then we're lucky there is a group trying to create some checks and balances. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" and if those in charge are not held accountable whether it be for funds or community management we're doomed to stay a second class resort forever.
Don't know what lateral replacements are, sewer pipes or something? I thought I heard there was an eight year plan to get everything up to par and we were in year three. I can't comment on the termination of the manager since I don't know what breaches of ethics occured or what part the BOD played but certainly the manager's actions were done with board approval or he would have been out of here much sooner. If it was as bad as is indicated why wasn't the manager prosecuted or sued for restitution?
It's been two months since the new attorney was hired for the 12' wide ordinance. I think an update is in order. We sure don't want to support another attorney for five years of doing nothing. Quick notes to the BOD on a regular basis should be done by all participating in this blog. I've sent a few notes prior to the new attorney and was told any news would be posted on the web site. The only members who even know there is a new attorney or the manager was fired are the ones who attended the open meeting or log on to this site. I'd bet more than half the community doesn't know what's going on. Nothing was on the LA web site about it and now the news page is blank. Only a little blurp on the July meeting minutes saying the manager was terminated but no reason was given. Seems things are spirling out of control.

anom--- more like a rocket aiming for mars and crashing and burning in NYC

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I was at Eagle Lake and kids 14 yrs old are able to drive golf carts. I was a bit nervous driving my car with children buzzing around in the roads in open carts. If LA allowed them who would pay the insurance? I'm guessing the owner of the cart so LA wouldn't be liable. They could rule you have to be 17 and have a regular driver's license to be eligible to drive a cart on community roads.Heard the dues at EL are about the same but the lake is beautiful (the swimming areas, they have two, one on each side of the lake, and lake bottom are clean) and the lots are larger. Checked out Trails End and lots are about the same size however their dues for 2008 were only $1250 including water and electric. Both places allow 12' wide homes. LA's dues are higher and we have less and the old trailers are looking worse every season. Each year my lot is worth less, if 12' wides aren't approved for next season it may be time to consider making a move but I may not even get what I paid for my lot if I can sell it at all.


anon-- your right i also checked several other communities ( i have some listed in the right column and links to them when you click on the link address ) and the fees are less or about even and yes MOST have better features than la ---the problem with la is that for years no one and none of the boards have spent money to maintain the la facilities, infrastructure or to improve them -- they do not and did not have any long range plans to take care of this community over a multi year schedule -- and to be honest they don't have them now ---the lateral replacement program that the current board always refers to is dead in the water as this so called dedicated crew doing everything except lateral replacements-- who knows why -- surely this board doesn't have a clue---

this is the fault of the members also -- they don't insist on a level of service or a level of maintenance -- this is the problem now --members don't hold the bod responsible for the condition of the community-- when you have a do nothing and absent bod and a unqualified and weak manager this is what happens--

but la members don't even vote for the bod -- last time only 600+ members out of 2000 voted--with that kind of response from the members, they are forfeiting control of the bod to a third of the members-- same people -- same results--

so if anything is ever to get better the members need to get involved, vote, complain, insist and finally if they don't get improvements get rid of those responsible---the bod is viewed by most of the current bod members as an honorary position --- they don't see themselves as responsible for anything or have next to any involvement in the la operations --of course they're wrong --- la is 1 accident, 1 fine or 1 lawsuit away from disaster and this bod is responsible for any and all of these problems-- while their job is unpaid it does carry the legal responsibility for the la operations whether it is good or bad -- that comes with the title director

the community needs to be cleaned up (REALLY ) and the 12' wide issue needs to be pursued -- there is a new lawyer handling this issue but we haven't heard much -- that needs to be addressed -- i doubt that the holdup is the township --i think it is la not knowing how to proceed --after all that requires someone like the bod to make a decision -- hmm!!!

yes and the price of each members investment in their property is affected by the condition at la both physical and organizational

so anon -- if you want change talk to other members to get involved -- complain. insist, scream, let a few choice words fly, get involved and finally vote you financial interests when it comes time for voting for bod members -- it would also help if new people would run for the board-- recycling the same people only gets you the same results -- this sounds an awful like mccane/obama -- oh no mr bill!

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "reply": I think all board members should be part of CCLA..concerned citizens for the good of all of Lake Adventure not just a few close friends.Many people seem to feel that with Gary gone anything that went wrong just dump it on him, well if board members are so innocent join CCLA and help lower our dues instead of attacking. The suggestion that CCLA should take everything directly to the board, were you at the last meeting? Right off the bat, we're cutting the meeting short, guess there was a social event going on, and the look of boredom..Being on the board is a job to serve the good of all. I don't think it should be viewed as a club for fun and profit ..and I also feel anyone who can say prove it if you feel something is wrong, already knows there is something amiss and feels it won't ever come to light. That too is a misconception, as proven by incidents that led to the firing of the property manager. stop with the nonsense about CCLA costing LA money and take a look at the real facts.Mismanagement had to be done with the knowledge of some board members, we have more vehicles in here than a construction company..I could go on but perhaps it would be better for the staunch anti CCLA to look at some of what really has been going on..and guess what, if the dues come down because of the efforts of CCLA..all will profit.not just a few friends and family.I would also like to see a little more honesty with 50/50's funds from ice cream socials, kitchen receipts..what is this no mention at the last dance what the amount of money was, and a board member disappears with another person and the "gate receipts". Posted by Anonymous to LAKE ADVENTURE RV COMMUNITY BLOG OF THE POCONO MOUNTAINS PENNSYLVANIA at September 7, 2008 8:13 PM


anon -- i'm not so sure your the only one that feels this way-- others have expressed similiar concerns-- the relationship between ccla and the la bod needs to be improved -- the only way for that to happen is to have some conversations between the two parties to try to come to some common understanding on how to address each parties interests -- if that doesn't happen then each group will be at each other until something changes -- not good for either party and not good for la community-- but something will happen-- it always does in matters like this
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golf carts

NORTHISLAND has left a new comment on your post "IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS !":
hey chipper checked out sites for eagle and trails end noticed golf carts are permitted with a reg fee why are they not allowed at la?seems la could uses the income also would cut down on dust and wear on roads.whats up with this?

north-- probably because no one on this bod wants them for their own use --- if they did they'd be here-- i assure you if one of them decides that they want one them they'll change the by laws and allow them--- so your task is to convince a sitting board member of the need for them to buy one or better yet maybe get a supplier to give them one then they'll be permitted--
they used to allow them at la but i don't know why they banned them -- my stepfather had one years ago but then they rescinded the privilege- there are pro and cons with golf carts but i don't know if it's any worst than the proliferation on these shiny black and shiny white trailers that are popping up all over la that members are using for storage (read the first 3 lines)--
OH NO!MR.BILL ! that can't be! ---you can't have 2 sheds so they allow these trailers which i hear SOME are using the portable trailers as garages for vehicle storage---- REALLY? -- that's what i hear--that's probably why they don't get rid of the construction trailer with a skid steer on it or the trailer with a race car-- can't make someone else stop doing something when you're doing the same thing--- hard 2 do--- well that's what i know -- maybe someone out there can shed more light as to why they are prohibited and let's face it no matter how convincing the argument would be for them and the fact that they're used all over that doesn't mean la will ever get them -- this is member issue and therefore will get very little consideration or brain power applied to the issue--- you can try though -- there is always hope

IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS !

IT'S RAINING CATS & DOGS

yes it looks like a full day of rain at la -- pool closed == club house open but not much else happening

i'm at the clubhouse using my computer -- but not for long -- i believe after october or november la is shutting down the wifi system ---- WHY ???? --- THE INTERNET IS THE PHONE OF 1950'S AND IT IS AN INDISPENSABLE PART OF MANY PEOPLES LIVES -- it is used for communication between families, shopping, research, news, education and entertainment -- it is the most economical way to pay bills and send messages -- no postage costs--but in the wisdom of the la management team ( whoever that is since there is no manager ) they are discontinuing it for the winter

la doesn't get it that the Internet is the communication tool of this time and today's people -- in fact if they were smart (?) they'd figure out how to use it in their business operations -- they would save money on postage, improve their ability to communicate information to their members and improve the performance of the la operations ( but don't hold your breath -- i don't think they can think that far or that deeply ) --
after all they only need to see what has happened in usa politics and see that the Internet has changed forever the way the usa will conduct elections in the future --- of course many would say it is not an improvement and they liked the game of politics before so many new people were involved and able to help shape the future of the usa--- actually maybe we could go back to 1950 -- it was so great then -- hmmmm!

so i doubt they would be able to comprehend this idea and see how the Internet could help run la for the better -- opps that's right most of those in charge think la is doing just fine and everything is honky dorky-- from their view with their heads in the sand it looks great !!!!

so if you use the wifi system at the clubhouse and want it through the winter you should call the office and register a very loud complaint and insist on this service through the winter email cheryl at info@lakeadventure.net
or call her at 570-686-2800

later i will have ways la can save money that la is spending in areas that is just plain mismanagement of asso. funds--- lots of it here -- that's for sure-- and maybe you are aware of other mismanagement and i'd sure be interested in knowing about it so we can share it with other involved members-- this is my email lachipper@gmail.com or ubfriend@aol.com ---
if we can save a few $ here and there maybe la could afford to keep the wifi going-- it's terrible the la management (?) is so shortsighted or in most cases blind or ignorant -- you take your pick

we need to get other members involved in this blog so we can track what is happening to la-- if we can communicate with each other and share our knowledge of all things la--we'll then know what's going on in the community and when things are wrong we can lobby the la board and management (?)-- heck if we're really dissatisfied we can be sure to recall this at time of the election of board members-- nothing sends a message better than changing out a few bod members ------
so talk to other members, email them, call them, write them and give them the blog address so we can keep in touch throughout the winter -- here's the address-

---http://www.lakeachippers.blogspot.com/


---chipper

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mureen moore pictures

well the link for the pictures mureen moore took of the crescent drive festivities is not working -- i receive an error message after several attempts -- i don't know why you can not get this album to view so i'll take down the link -- sorry - chipper

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HEY CHIPPER JUST WOULD LIKE YOUR OPINION ON THE MANAGERS JOB.IF SOMEONE IS QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB AND IS A PROPERTY OWNER IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE RULES OR REGULATIONS NOT ALLOWING THIS PERSON TO APPLY.THANKS 66BLUE.A

sot-- nothing in the rules --- this would amount to rejecting a qualified applicant for an indefensible reason and is not in the best interest of the la community--- after all a member would be more interested, even if it's for his own self preservation in the value of his property, to see that la was properly managed -- an individual off the street doesn't have that incentive and works strictly for the money -- members mean nothing to the manager -- example: gary-- who i'm sure most of the present board members had a hand in hiring -- so what does that have to say for their judgement in that selection--- we'll see where this leads to soon i guess

i've heard some lame excuses as to why this idea of having a member as a manger isn't viewed favorably but they have no valid reason to exclude a qualified individual-- some of the reasons were that as a member the manager would be able to retaliate against people he didn't view favorably--- like this isn't being done now by individuals who have an undue influence on the security services and use this service to retaliate, harass and try to intimidate others members they dislike --- or the member as a manager will have access to confidential information about la membership -- really -- i guess the membership rolls that the rv dealers are using for mailings just somehow magically appeared on their desks -- both of these examples are just excuses-- yes they happened --- but if the individual you're hiring has a strong employment history and background suitable for the position then you have some assurances that they also operate ethically and in a professional manner--

then again maybe someone off the street is what the bod wants-- who knows

cresent drive photos

maureen moore's collection of pictures from the cresent drive block party on saturday, 30 august are very nice -- there are some really outstanding portrait shots among the collection-- she did a very nice job --- take the time to view the entire slideshow since she has a variety of group shots also--- just click on the link on the right column comment

ps-- the link wasn't working earlier today -- hopfully i now have it fixed

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WHAT HAPPENED ?

SUMMER'S END !!!

everybody is gone -- really ---gustav is in the gulf not lake la -- but they all went home -- very successful weekend to close the summer season -- couldn't ask for more!

the rest of the year will be much quieter but it also is one of the nicest times of the year at la -- the weather is mild in the fall, the trees will start to turn and that's always spectacular -- it's also a great time to visit the many parks around la with waterfalls that are great photo opportunities for those who enjoy photography -- bushkill, child's park, shawnee and many others in the various parks around la -- here is a link http://www.trails.com/activity.aspx?area=15248 -- hiking trails are always beautiful when the leaves turn colors and are easier to navigate with the cooler days-- so while the summer is over la does offer nice weekend trips for the entire family ==so plan to spend a couple of more weekends at la ---later i'll post more information regarding weekend fall festivals in the la area

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CROWDS -- WOW !

yes it appears the season is going out with a bang for la --weather just great, people everywhere -- pool packed, kids having a great time riding bikes, people walking their dogs, moms, pops, grandparents and kids of all ages and picnics throughout the community-- members must have been saving up for the last of the season chance to have a good time and this is it --

just look at the crowd at the pool ! who would have believed it?

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BLOCK PARTY

cresent drive members had a rocking block party today --- they said this has been a 20 year tradition in their neighborhood--- it was great -- dj music, a band, food, drinks, ice cream and a bunch of people-- the street was lined with american flags on every property-- the tractor has a trailer for hay rides, kids were everywhere, people dancing, playing frisbee and street lacrosse and lots of yard parties going on in addition to the street party-- this is the type of activity that la needs more people to engage in, neighbors coming together and having a good time, engaged in a day of fun and socializing-- if la members shared some common interests it benefits the entire community-- as you looked around the neighborhood you noticed that most all the properties were very well maintained - a definite sign that engaged members take pride in their properties and their neighbors -- very nice day and congratulations to all those that worked to put on this neighborhood event

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ps --ANYONE GOT PICTURES THEY WANT TO POST JUS EMAIL ME FOR DETAILS

HURRICANE KATRINA - 3 YEARS

WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THE FAILURE AT NEW ORLEANS !

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if you were to take a licensed class on pool operations you would know that you have to close the pool to backwash the pool for about 30 min to an hour depending on the consistancy of the waste. Camelbeach actually closes their wave pool for about 30 min when this situation happens.


anon -- i agree -- but 30 to 60 mins is better than closing down the pool completely-- completely closing the pool is unacceptable -- members spend money to belong to la and when they come here they expect that the recreational elements will be available-- after all if they only are here for a week or two it is rather expensive at $2k per year and they expect la to operate

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BUSY BODIES !

why do some members seem to feel that they have the right and obligation to act as the enforcer of rules-- down at the club house there are a few people that constantly feel they need to correct or control children when they are standing on the bench seat or running or anything else they feel is wrong -- these kids are with their parents and you should stay out of their business and stop harassing them -- it is the parents responsibility to control their kids -- they of course only do it with kids and mostly mothers -- if a adult sits on the top rail of the bench no one says anything-- especially if its a man-- in fact some of the most serious infractions are caused by some men who are regulars or semi permanent members and they say nothing--parents can decide what, when, how and where a child can play and are capable of determining the safety issues related to their activities -- their excuse is the kid could fall over the railing-- yes they could but they can also be hit by a vehicle, slip and fall on the steps to the pool, drown in the pool, and any number of other things -- that is always out there --- stop harassing kids and parents and -- leave the members alone-- they should try to find something else to do with their lives

WEEKEND

well the holiday weekend is here-- weather is nice, sunny, mild temps and the place is ready for the seasons last holiday--pool open with plenty of families and yes you know when people get here by the dogs barking -- should be a good holiday

last week we had a few cool nights-- i was home for two weeks and when i got back i was shocked that some of my plants got hit by a cold snap--- this is august not october -- what happened to global warming????

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For your information security did go around the park with there loud speaker telling everyone to turn off your hot water heaters lake adventure has no water the second day they asked everyone to turn off their hydrants it was also posted at the gate and clubhouse I feel that security did a fine job with letting everyone know of LA situation. I was home both days and heard them MYSELF......Thankyou very much have a nice day......


anon -- yes i think they did a much better job with this problem -- they had bi lingual signs at the restrooms near me-- that is really a good improvement -- this was a difficult situation for the community and the la management team but i think both showed great cooperation-- much better than how the previous manager handled things (OH NO! MR. BILL ! MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A MANAGER?)

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It sounds like the issues described for an oversight committee are the responsibilities of a property manager. Hopefully the BOD will support the new property manager and will allow him/her to represent the entire community in an inbiased manner. A community help group would be beneficial for the summer vacation season but given the varied demographics of the property owners who would be members it may be difficult for them to operate the rest of the year.
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What happened at the pool? Can someone please explain? Thanks

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bill folz <billfolz@yahoo.com>tolachipper@gmail.com
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I think that having CCLA members on the BOD is not a good idea they have cost us thousands of dollars with their trips to the Pike town and the attorney general. I think we should keep everything in house. why don't we create an oversight committee to gather information about problems in LA and go directly to the BOD. If CCLA thinks money is missing prove it and confront the BOD. In the mean time this committee could go directly to the BOD with problems like security, maint, unsightly sights, boats and cars stored on sights all summer. this committee should concern it self with saving us money not wasting it on legal fees. bill

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What is wrong with some people? Two days in a row an adult has ----- in the pool and forced it to close down and ruin the fun for the kids. 8/26/2008 and 8/27/2008 the pool has been shut down due to this problem. Last year it happened three Sundays in a row. People this is unacceptable and ruins the fun for the children who enjoy the pool. I don't know if this is out of spite or it is a person who is not well enough to control their movements

aacesf- --this is a problem that i've heard about the last few days-- hopefully no one is doing this on purpose -- if they are and then if they're caught the bod should take a very strong stand with them-- i can't imagine that anyone would do this with the the consequences of having people know who they were when they're caught-- makes no sense-- if it continues then la should hire someone to monitor the pool and try to catch them -- they should also make it publicly known that they are doing this monitoring -- hopefully to discourage this person--

but having said that if a person is having medical problems then they should have the common decency not engage in activities where they can have an accident in a public place and put people at risk-- if you have any medical condition that puts others at risk then you have an obligation not to participate in activities that cause this risk -- this isn't denying anyone their access to a public place due to a disability but more denying access due to a risk to the public that their causing with their medical condition or ignorance

another issue is that they shut down the pool when this happens--- i wonder what other places that operate pools do in this situation--i don't think they shut down pools for this situation --i think they should skim the pool and cleanup the problem--- there is enough chemicals in that water and enough volume of water that this situation doesn't really pose a health hazard as much as a negative perception -- sometimes the pool personnel are quick to jump on this situation to get out of work early-- someone should check out what others do in this type of case

you know members come to la for their vacation and it isn't good when one day they have no water and for two days the pool shuts down-- i think the people working for la forget that the purpose of la is to provide recreation for the members -- that is the # 1 responsibility and at all costs the community needs to be open and operating -- this seems to get lost in the operations -- not a good thing for la

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "COMMENT REPLYs":
LA could have done a better job in notifing folks of the water shut off. Why didn't they use security to notify us? Instead they made an anouncement at the clubhouse and relied on "Word of Mouth".
I'm sure some folks didn't get the word in time and were not able to save a few "Flush Buckets" to make it through the inconvience


Kathleen has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":
I was up at LA for the past 7 days and returned home late last night. I can say that the water problem was "fixed" and water came back on at my site somewhere around 3:30 pm.
While is was a slight inconvenience....I was glad that it didn't take more than a day (more or less)...to fix the problem. All in all...my visit to LA was wonderful! Weather great....pool was crystal clear....beach happenings were lots of fun..ice cream social a success...the deer and turkeys were lovely to see....need I say more

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Can you please remove all the crap off this blog? It would be much easier to read for us older folks. If you want to get a message across it would be easier if we did not have to read all the CRAP!!!!

anon -- there are a lot of different sections to the blog and i know they aren't organized in the best manner but i'm still working on the basics of learning how to manage the layout functions and to be truthful i'm not making much progress-- but i'll keep working on it -- just be patient and be a little adventursome and try different elements of the blog and you'll find it easier to navigate after a few trys


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":
In my opinion the water problem this week has been totally mishandled. Why the secrecy around it? I have spoken to security, multiple maintenance workers, the office, janitor, other LA members and no one had the same story. What's the deal? The lack of response and urgency is unacceptable. I came home yesterday as I have 2 children, has the problem been fixed yet?

anon-- i just arrived yesterday and saw the signage re water problem-- it seems to be okay at my trailer but i don't know about the rest of the community-- maybe someone who has the scoop on this problem will send it to me so i can post it in the blog---
i heard that a main pump had gone out and that was the problem== don't know what that means but i guess it interrupted the water supply--- again a maintenance issue comes up that causes a failure in a basic utility--this time water supply and other times electric failures and sewage problems -- the basic utility functions need to be examined and corrective action must be identified and then implemented to reduce or stop failures in the basics utilities -- i'm sure that would mean an expenditure of dollars to get the systems in a more reliable condition but that should be the community goal over a specified period of time to relieve these problems-- we'll see what happens

IT MUST HAVE BEEN COLD AT LA

well i came back to la today after a three week absence and guess what -- my impatients and begonias were really hammered by a cold snap -- wacked them real good -- other containers were in need of water and plants were wilting --so i guess i'll cleanup the planters and put them away till next year-- the remainder of the plants will stay in till a frost -- could be just around the corner the way this weather is going this season

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There seems to be a misconception of what CCLA is. The truth of the matter is, the last very large increase in our dues was against our covenants. many people gave their own money to hire a lawyer requesting the PM to show cause, where the money is going. As stated at the July meeting Gary along with some board memebers opted to pay LA lawyer $2000 rather than make the records public. If there is nothing to hide, why not? We are property owners and have a right to know. We can't have the powers that be taking more and more from us with no accountability. The purpose of CCLA is to lower the dues to a fairer more manageable amount to benefit all of Lake Adventure, not just a chosen few.Why then the hate campaign against CCLA, i can only believe those who shout the loudest and become the most beligerant have the most to hide. the amount of 91,000 is a rumor put out there to discredit CCLA and inflame property owners. The CCla is not suing LA and this amount is ludicrous. Why would CCLA use there own personal funds to sue themselves? People need to really start thinking for themselves. CCLA is not funded by any LA monies. It is totally privately funded, which has become an oodity in LA considering not too many people will offer any kind of service without remuneration. It's been said at meetings, Gary is gone, that's past, lets move on, Consider this,whatever incidents led to Gary's dismissal could not have been carried out without the approval of some board members, past and present, for this has been going on a long time. Some of these past members are already jockeying for a seat on the board again. Why? to serve property owners and to look out for our best interests. Looking at their past records, i don't see anything outstanding done for us as a whole. These are also the people who want to keep everything status quo, not wanting records to become public.So yes Gary is gone, the catastrohe he left behind is still in place, and until that is cleaned up LA cannot truly move on. It's the same problem, just moving the players around, so we are in fact still trapped in the past. I had to ask myself why anyone would cry when they lost their seat on the board and why the spouse would verbally attack someone right after the loss, I can't believe its the loss of prestige and must be more than the occasional free mealSo yes CCLA members must be silent about their identity. They are using their own money to help everyone. the thank you they have received for fighting these outrageous dues at their own expense is threats of stoning.To those who are circulating rumors and want to pretend all is well not making things public, and inciting neighbor against neighbor, what are you fighting for?

anon -- you seem to be very upset about several things here at la -- i guess from your comments that there are several things you are concerned about and want answers to come from the la board -- fair enough request -- a meeting should be arranged between ccla and the board with ccla having a clear very specific set of questions that it wants answered -- it must be focused and to the point -- no rumors, no assumptions for answers before you have a chance for a reply from the bod-- also whenever a group or anyone else threatens legal action it then becomes harder to meet and talk freely with the parties your threatening -- so the ccla should decide before hand what approach they want to take -- a meeting for informational purposes by members of the la association or a confrontation approach by ccla-- the latter will probably will not work--

the increase in dues was in a large part a result of two things --

• 1. the der regs and requirements that were imposed on the association by the der and the debt cost to comply with these regulations-- this is going to always be a problem with any group that supplies water and sewage treatment for themselves-- this idea was fine at the inception of la when the regulations were lax but now time has caught up to la and the cost to stay in compliance will only continue and will have to be funded no matter what the cost-- the government doesn't care how la pays for this service --only that they stay in compliance
• 2. for years it seemed that la was on cruise control and the fees were kept low-- nice for the members and the bod members at election time but bad for the future of la-- but now things have caught up to la and costs continue to rise, capital improvements that were ignored for many years now need to be done-- electrical upgrades, equipment replacements, and soon restroom and shower upgrades, building maintenance that has been ignored and other issues that will rise up and need attention ==== $$$$$$

this situation didn't happen overnight but took years of neglect by previous bod members, managers and to some extend the la membership whose only goal was to keep the fee down - budgets were not properly prepared and no financial planning was done (one wonders what kind guidance la was receiving from their accountants-- not much)-- realistic capital budgets were not developed or acted upon which then let the association get stuck with doing everything at once instead of doing it over a longer planned period that would have allowed these costs to be set over many years and would have allowed for a gradual fee increase- now you pay for that neglect with large increases in the fees

more importantly is the issue of accountability when it comes to the projects that la is suppose to be doing with the fee increases-- are they being done????-- laterals, sewage upgrades, water supplies, electrical upgrades -- are there benchmarks for completing this work and who is responsible for overseeing this work and the completion of these projects-- i really question this aspect of the la operations and would like stronger accountability with this work progress from the bod and future manager--- you don't want to find out a few years from now that this work isn't done and the monies are unaccountable-- that would be a disaster for the association

another aspect of la is the operation of the community-- this is for all intents and purposes a 12 week seasonal operation from mid june through labor day -- 99% of the members who visit la come in that period-- why then does the association run a year round staffing -- NO ONE IS HERE!!!!!! except for the dozen or so nesters who are here for 51 weeks out of the year (wink -- wink)---- this should go to a seasonal staffing situation for all positions and operations that are not essential to the operation of la--(oh the nesters will go nutzsssss!!!!!) this will allow some funds to be diverted into the must do projects and to paying down the debt on the dep compliance issues

well i think i said enuf for this day -- i'm sure i didn't make any friends with this one -- but then again it is never easy to hear things that you don't want to hear -- it easier to keep you head in the sand and make believe everything is fine with la -- chipper

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When 1+1 does not = 2 you form a group of people who are concerned. If there is nothing out there to hide why would anyone or any group be subject to such a group? Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. Each individual who takes part in any transaction/action should be held accountable for their actions weather it is in a form of a lie or an unethical action. What needs to get done is to stop this 5th grade behavior and address the issues. I can say an owner at LA i want answers and have every right to them. If you can't give a valid answer then just like when you get the overdue notice and claim you paid cash we all know you didn't pay. Enough is enough and lets move forward and get the answers so the problems can get fixed and bring justice to any wrongful actions that have been committed

anon - you have a right to get a straightforward answer to whatever questions you may have-- this needs to be the number 1 issue for the new manager-- he must be available to meet with community members and be prepared to give them honest answers to their questions -- a new manager can't do anything about what happened before he came to la but he can set the course for the future by being open and honest-- of course members must realize that a new manager may not have all the answers and need to give him time to review the operations at la and see what is happening within the organization-- then steps can be formulated to try to allieviate the concerns of members-- the bod will have to support the new manager and allow him to proceed to manage la -- if they don't support his efforts then it won't work and la will be no better off then when they had the previous management --that manager seemed to get itself into a situation that went from bad to worst-- we'll see what happens!

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