HO! HO! HO!

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!!!

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CLOWNS !!!!!!

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Anonymous to me
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Being we do not have the luxury of being able to visit LA during the winter anyone who does visit could you please fill us in if you have any information on the following:
12 wide issue
Electrical upgrades
Sewer repairs
hiring of a manager
part time/full time positions rec. Dir
Have any improvements such as painting the comfort stations, laundry building, improving the overall appearance of LA. With the amount of dues we are now paying these items of improving LA should be done, or, like every other year and other boards, NOTHING It also seems certain people do what they want and are not accountable to anyone.

anon -- not much happening on any of the issues you have on your lists -- this bod and the lack of management at la will guarantee that nothing will get done over winter -- i just don't understand how the members allow this bunch of clowns to control la -- they are not capable of managing or overseeing the la operations -- yet they continue to sit on the board and screw thing up worst than they already are screwed up--- i believe these guys will take la to a day when the gates are chained shut and la is out of business -- that's how incompetent they are-- really bad-what are the members waiting for???? when are they going to demand action and accountability from this bod??? when are they going to start screaming and raising hell with this bod--- i keep posting my thoughts but everyone else just sits back and are quiet as mice -- they either don't care about la, aren't interested in their investment or are brain dead--- it just amazes me the membership lack of concern on virtually all issues before them here at la--- call me when the gates are chained and locked !!!!!!!!!! -- chipper
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Hi,
My nom de guerre is Eddy and I'm an avid reader of your blog because I consider it to be the "grapevine" for hearing of situations developing at LA.
The reason I'm corresponding with you is because I'm looking to purchase a lot and trailer, but didn't want to use JOCO because of the monopoly that they have on nearly all sales, resulting in super inflated prices. Members should be encourage to post with whomever they would like and to deal directly with the purchaser, as would be the case with private purchases. I was just wondering if you would consider posting WANTED ads, in addtion to the For Sale ads now currently available? if not, let me know if you hear of someone selling at a reasonable price, nothing extravagant or near the lake.
Warm Regards,

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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment + question":

From what I understand, the board meets once a month except for December and February. So I'm assuming there were meetings in October and November. Does anyone know when those minutes will be posted on the LA website?

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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":

According to the published Aug board notes there was a meeting scheduled with the attorney in early Sept to work on the 12' wide issue. That was three months ago. Has anyone heard of an update? It may be mentioned in the Sept board minutes which we may see in January, why does it take so long to get the notes published?

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contract management

BAD BUSINESS CHOICE FOR LA!!!

some more observations regarding contract management services

• usually these contracts are multi year obligations --UNLESS YOU HAVE A CLAUSE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CANCEL WITHOUT CAUSE AND NO PENALTY YOU SHOULD NOT SIGN A CONTRACT!-- no contractor will give you this for this size of a project-- but if you sign without this clause you will not be able to cancel the contract -- believe me no matter how poorly they do you will be committed to the term of the contract and the payment of fees -- they have many accounts and they have legal advice that shows them how to keep customers contracts valid and the payments enforceable no matter what-- you can't get out of these contracts
• the reason cancellation of a contract is next to impossible is that without strong specifications that cover all aspects of their responsibilities and performance and a measurement to determine if they are not performing you have no basis to terminate a contract without compensating them for their lost business--- and these companies know how to make you pay -- THEY ARE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY!!
  
• keep in mind that you are dealing with a sales executive and they will say anything to get you to sign (some even offer free accommodations in their various vacation homes that they maintain for customer use as well as box seats and tickets to sporting events and etc. and etc---- still a payoff -- keep that in mind) -- then when you have problems with the operations you have to deal with operations executives -- they're not the sales guy who sold you the job and can't say anything about the promises the sales people told you-- tough -- sounds a lot like dealing with car people? -- well it's the same situation and you'll get no where
• having a contractor run your business requires a lot of oversight -- this bod can't oversee the operations they have now so what makes the bod think they'll any more successful with this situation--- one thing they do have now is that you can remove the manager -- you can't remove the contractor without a big fight and large cash compensation to end your contract--
• this bod is an absent bod -- they are at la for the main holidays and events and know little to nothing about the la operations -- somehow i think they believe that this contract services is the gift from heaven and all their problems and responsibilities will be solved and handled by a contractor -- THEY ARE WRONG !

la community members must oppose this idea now --this bod is heading in the wrong direction if they pursue this course of action!! if you oppose this you should let them know and get other members who may not be aware about this idea to join in and contact them at info@lakeadventure.net or call at 570-686-2800

--- chipper >>> robert friend lachipper@gmail.com

management companies

the idea that la can be managed better by a management company is probably true -- in the
absense of the bod's ability to hire a qualified manager, their inability to trust a manger to run la, in their inability not to inject themselves into the management of la --this is an option


BUT
there are problems with this idea and in managing these type of contracts

• creeping costs -- remember the contractor's purpose is to make money -- so they will more professionally manage your business and attain savings and efficiencies but they will also have a strong desire to move any savings they accomplish into their side of the column-- resulting in them making more money and you (meaning the members) will not get any financial benefit from this arrangement-- they do this by offering you the minimum contract services with a great price (a deal you can't refuse) or known in the business as low bid--- but----
• then when you realize you want better service or more service they then renegotiate the costs for their service -- each negotiation results in costing you more money and you losing more of the savings they accomplished
• they provide minimum management services -- no more than they have to to keep the contract -- if you want more -- renegotiate for more money
• their selection of managers does not guarantee you a qualified manager -- you may very well end up with one with no more experience than any you had in the past or that you can choose yourself--- they don't send their best and most costly manager to a job that is low bid and minimum profit margins--- want better -- you must renegotiate for more costs
• if you don't have a set of lake adventure specifications covering every aspect of running la: from personnel management, facilities management, office management, property owner relationship management, infrastructure management, employee compensation and human resources management, payroll management, accounts receivables and payables, management of mandatory government documentation, payment schedules, fee schedules and compliance record keeping and etc. and etc.--- missed something in your original contract??? -- you can renegotiate for more costs

i've spent that last 21 years of my career at air products and chemicals handling $ 5,000,000.00 a year in contract services -- believe me i saw it all and i don't think the la board realizes how the service contractors work and don't realize that without strong oversight you will not realize any savings for the members and you will not be satisfied with their services-- remember they work to make money -- not manage your property -- if you pay enough (believe me that amount is never known) you may get something -- any better than you can do on your own??? you have to decide!!!!! OH NO! MR. BILL ! DECISIONS

NEED A CAPTION 4 THIS PICTURE

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR CAPTION 4 THIS PICTURE???? I BET THERE ARE A BUNCH OUT THERE!



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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":

Penthouse in NYC, maybe you should run for the board and straighten things out!!!...There are a lot of property owners in LA that have management positions in the other world outside of Lake Adventure and am quite sure they, along with retirees, would be an asset. I feel if you don't have a solution to the problem don't create another. Once the board opened up the finances with the budget and salaries to all they unleashed a whole new source of anger with property owners who are NOT happy with the way things are being run and to let everyone know how much people are being paid for what they do, those of us working probably feel slighted when we are being asked to take from 10 to 15% pay cuts and pay more for medical and are happy to have a job!!! I don't know where the board works, if they do, or if they read papers or watch TV because if they did they would understand why owners are upset about employee's salaries and the spending the board is doing. If they continue, with the economy the way it is, look for more dues increases and less owners paying dues, be real will you make car payments or pay lake Adventure. This board and manager, if we have one by now, must get a handle on spending and cut costs to survive. The time is now and not wait until the summer and have an emergency meeting and say dues must go up or the park will close and if the township levies severe fines against us, and the DEP as in the past to the tune of 10K, where will this money come from. Property owners voiced their opinions against a management company but with the shape Lake Adventure is in now that may be our only chance for survival, or maybe the property owner who knows the problems that exist and did interview for the job and where was the result of his interview posted????

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Born and raised in new york city and still live there when I sell my lot and TRAILER I will move back to my park ave penthouse

anon -- hope your not counting on selling your la property any time soon-- you couldn't give it away right now --- when you look at the bod meeting notes you wonder why they give preferable treatment to jaco and not all realtors -- i bet the other realtors have sold just as many properties as jaco over the last year -- maybe more-- that's surely an unholy alliance between jaco and this bod

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Anonymous to me
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment + seasonal operations":


First this should be discussed in private( Financial issues). An employee or their family member shouldn't be involved. I would love to be a fly on the wall in my employers office and find out information. This blog is great for interaction among the owners but it is open to all (employees/contractors/owners).Never a good thing.



We need to cut back on our spending. Jobs have to be cut.Money has to be saved. In the next few years we may lose lake adventure if we don't act. We need the right people on the board who know how to help the community. Put the Ego's aside and deal with the issues. This is a serious situation.


And for the New York comment, if we don't come to your state and spend you better have a money making tree.

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Anonymous to me
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It’s not just a matter of making your choices wisely when you vote in the next Board election. The bigger concern here is this: WHO is qualified to be on the board and getting them to run. Sometimes we may feel that we are choosing the “lesser of two evils.” If you have community association leadership or board of director’s experience (outside of Lake Adventure), PLEASE consider running in the next LA board election

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":

You are correct in stating LA is a campground and should be run as such with a main seasonal period and an off season but still being able to have activities. When LA was in the early years there were more activities ALL year and there was a recreation director who was part time and ALSO wore many hats but again, SHE WAS NOT FULL TIME!!! It is nice for a daughter to stand up for her parent but this isn't a soap box. As far as her working so much for the store, building etc, if that was so why has the board, and past boards, stated the store and kitchen are costing us money and plans on closing them, the store alrerady has been closed so that should have impacted her work load. THIS IS NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE AN ATTACK ON AN INDIVIDUAL but the position no matter who has it. It is poor business practce, especially in these times, to mis manage staff and the position is over-paid and over extended hours when there are no activities. Here again is an example of not having a manager or a board that knows what to do, but we all elected them so live with it, when election time rolls around make your choices wisely. As far as people making statements about other salaries and benefits, WAKE UP, look at the state the country is in and companies closing and cutting costs and do you think if property owners, are included in that backlash that they will have money to pay dues and keep the revenue coming into Lake Adventure!!! The company I work for has slashed jobs and stopped business travel for all employees to survive and most companies have done the same. If emplyees are not happy with change take a look at the job market and see if they can find a job to equal what they are making at LA. in that area. I just can't believe the issues that people are concerned about and not about the board and not having a manager to handle these problems. Your dues money is going out the window and costs out of your pocket is only going to increase with mis spending and not having the proper revenues coming in do you think the dues will remain the same?? You have been hit with a 300% increase over the past five years and what do you have to show for it, is the appearance of LA look any better?? Has all the sewer and lateral work been completed? Has the electrical up grade been completed?? Where is the multi-year plan ?? With the township on our backs how long do you think we will be allowed to remain open, their inspectors were in the park most of the summer, do you think they were in there to watch the chipmunks and birds or to look for violations....LA is in trouble and this board better wake up and stop the in fighting and worrying about hurting someone's feelings and run a business as LA should be run.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "power outage ????":

Hi! Yes, the power was out about 6 hours and it was freeeeezing! I can't remember the day but it was awful! I do know that the security guard was the most nicest, helpful man that explained everything to me...he did everything in his power to get people in here.

However, the private contractor comes from scranton and it was a fuse that blew. There are three fuses that run the park...not like car fuses, big ole' 12 inch fuses!

Eventually, the problem was fixed but the heat tape shut off due to lack of electric and I had to defrost the hose and hydrant.

Luckily, the next day, the temperature was higher, so the hydrant defrosted.

It does concern me, that this can happen again and again. With 11 degree weather like it was this morning, I shutter to think of the electric kicking out in the future, but I know these things happen.

Hope this was helpful and sorry bout your steak!

anon -- thanks for the info -- yes these power outages can be disturbing since you never know how long you're going to be down when it happens-- if someone who understood the problems was present you might get better info so you can make a decision to wait it out or look for a room at a motel -- oh yes i guess i must be thinking of a community manager - the one we don't have!!! hmmm!!!

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":

I just want to say LA used to be called a campground for the people who have not been here that long I have been here 25 years now its commuinty assocation you buy a lot and trailer which is a little more maybe then a new car you pay very little taxes to the county come here with your big city rudeness and complain to the town go to the courthouse in milford I think its the first door on your right there is a sign on the wall we dont care how they do it in NEWYORK so get off your highhorse its a trailerpark opps sorry a commuinty assoc it seems some people dont have benefits so they dont want you to have them seems like personal problem I can go on and on so all LA employees thank you for your service fight for rights its america land of brave home of the free



anon---- WOW !!!!

power outage ????

i was up to la saturday and i discovered that a steak that i had in the freezer was completely defrosted and the ice cream was liquefied -- this would indicate that there was an extended period without electric service---does anyone know how long the power was off??? what was the problem -- i didn't see any notice on the la web page but then maybe they only report snow accumulations

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment reply":

I agree...employees who receive a raise this year should be thankful. Many of us have had to take a cut in pay and are lucky to still have our jobs. I'm sure some have lost or will be losing their jobs. More and more of the workforce are working longer and longer hours to keep their jobs. My spouse works close to 50 and sometimes 60 hours a week and being salaried gets no overtime. Try doing that 50 weeks a year.

posting

i find that when people get annoyed there is a tendency to rage out at the first person you come in contact with -- if you get a late fee on you credit card bill or a bank charge for a bounced check you go after the person answering the phone at visa or give the bank teller a few rude words -- neither person had anything to do with the penalty and probably can't give you satisfaction -- you need to go after the supervisor or the manager for relief -- the person who is the face of any activity or operation gets the grief yet maybe they can't and don't make the decisions that have you steamed or dissatisfied -- usually a general manager or in la's case the bod are responsible for the operations or lack of operations and are the one's that need to be addressed when there are grievances-- this has been the case with the rec director at la -- so let's direct the complaints to those responsible for these operations -- the bod

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Kerri McEvoy to me
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Good Evening,

I was trying to sumbit this for approval but my screen is saying it is not going through. So I am emailing it to you instead, thank you for your time and your willingness to post my comments.

First of all I am not saying that I would do "anything to anyone". (Did you seriously think that?) WOW.
I simply stated that if you are going to come on this blog and discuss someone personally that you should be mature enough to leave your name. That's all. I wrote my name because I am not ashamed of what I write, nor am I trying to hide my identity. (You have the right to remain anonymous – and I guess we will just leave it at that!)
I am sorry that you do not have benefits. I am sure if you did have them... you would be fighting to keep them and if you had the opportunity to get them, you would probably take them. I know I would.
And finally, I did not post my previous comment to have you or anyone else for that matter “go off the handle” or become angry. I was simply standing up for my mother, which as her daughter I felt I had the right to do.
Thank you Chipper for posting this and my previous post. I really appreciate it.


Kerri


kerri -- i don't think anyone could have misunderstood what you were saying -- you were defending your mom and for that you should be commended -- your defense was straightforward and clearly given from your heart -- i'm sorry that the postings began to get personal and in the future i will try to do a better job of moderating them before they're published -- as with any blog you want people to be able to express their opinions and therefore i am reluctant to want to get into a position of being a censor but yes this case went too far --- chipper

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment":


We pay dues and out of them we expect certain things. Benefits should only be for full time workers period. This is how the world works. If your mom is looking to support a family "Get in line" we all are. A raise and benefits in these times is unheard of. If a person is doing a good job just to keep it is a blessing in this state we are in. BOD why are we handing out a pay increase?



And if you see an Anonymous post "so what". Here it comes, you find out the name and what would you do then? Most of us owners don't have benefits why should we just give them away?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment":

If the activity calendar is the responsibility of the Social Committee, it may be a good idea for someone to post when their meetings are and how people can join. Maybe the addition of new voices and ideas would help the situation.

The committee and BOD should also consider having more cost-free activities on park premises so that more people can afford to go on the trips. For some people, it's not even the cost. Most trips are scheduled during the week. I think there would be a bigger response on the weekends. Many (myself included) cannot ride any longer on that old school bus (and I'm not a senior citizen). I know it probably is not financially feasible at this time, but we should start to consider a replacement for the future or else allow people to drive themselves to the activities.

It would actually be a good idea to post info about ALL the committees so more people can get involved across the whole realm of the community.

One last thing...We all appreciate that you have set up this blog and thank you Chipper. It has given EVERYONE the opportunity to vent, to learn, to educate. Some statements may seem cruel or even downright vicious; but many are valuable lessons and information. We have no other voice. I have been to many a board meeting over the years and more often than not, people's comments, suggestions and opinions seem to fall on deaf ears and questions go unanswered.

clarification

i read the post from the rec director's daughter and i have to say that her comments are worth considering -- the rd works long hours during the season- between the management of the pool, food service, club house and the evening functions it is a bunch of long days -- the rd should be properly compensated for this long schedule or an assistant should be on board to share the schedule-- also it is true that the compensation -- from what can be determined -- is probably a bargain for la--- it is never fair to complain about individual workers since they should be performing under the direction of a manager and if their performance isn't acceptable it is the fault of management not the worker -- that is always the case

therefore i will reject any more comments about individuals--

the bod removed the manager and had no back up plan to replace him--- almost 6 months later they still haven't hired anyone -- they allow the mismanagement of la, it's assets and functions and therefore the complaints are with them not the workers

in the future i hope we can discuss anything that covers the structure and operation of la like whether it should be year round operations or seasonal operations, whether the activities schedules are fine or should be expanded or refocused, whether the dues are adequate or too high, whether the bod is performing in the best interests of the members, and etc. etc.--- let's leave individuals out of the conversations and stick to wider more important issues -- god only knows there's plenty out there

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Kerri McEvoy has left a new comment on your post "comment":

Dear Lake Adventure,

I read this blog and it makes me sick to continually read the way you bash my mother’s position (the recreation director). If you think that all she does is slap some events and dates on a calendar. YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. Her position involves more than just a June, July and August schedule, believe me, she has been in this position for as long as I can remember. As a child growing up with her and now still seeing the work that she does, you should all be ashamed for your negativity and thinking that she doesn’t deserve benefits or a specific amount of money. I understand your concerns, especially now with the economy in the shamble that it is in. But it simply blows my mind that you are so quick to put another person out of a job, with no money and send them off without benefits. Do you realize that she is a person who is also trying to support a family…. Oh no not to you people. She just some recreation director who only works 2 months of the year, who only schedules a dozen activities and doesn’t have anything else to do for the rest of the year. You should be ashamed.

Do you think the activities can be planned in one day? Do you even now how many hours she spends a day, a week, a month in Lake Adventure? Believe I am sure if you paid her hourly for her work it would amount to much more than the salary she is provided with. The Social Committee makes the suggestions for the calendar, she is told what to put on the calendar and the board approves the calendar before it is sent to print. And it is to my recollection from living with her that the summer calendar is due in March for the board to review. I can also remember her wanting to travel to new places and have different activities available but I think she was always told NO. These new trips that you talk about it’s been tried and when they are put on the calendar no one signs up because no one is willing to pay to go on these trips, you expect to go for free. Sorry but you can’t get trips for 2 bucks or less. Where have you ever lived that you do not have to pay to go on trips, because I would like to live there.


Sweet deal huh? What a ridiculous comment. Where are you when the bathrooms need to be cleaned, or when the swim team needs things open at 6am? Or when people like to get their papers early on a Saturday morning? When a kitchen delivery is being made at the wee hours of the morning? You are still probably nestled in your bed while my mother is already there. And at night when you are sitting down and relaxing after a hard day of sitting at the pool in your political circles, my mother is still working. She just doesn’t do it because she is getting paid, she does is because she loves what she does. You would be sorry if you lost her because I can almost guarantee that no one will put the time, effort and devotion into this position as my mother has and continues to do. I have seen some of the recreation directors in the past in action and needless to say they are no longer there. They were never there after 4 and hardly there on the weekends (and that was during the summer, where were all you people then with your negative commentary?)

Let’s take a look at your salary, your work load, your hours, the people you have to deal with, really I would love to discuss what you do that makes you feel that you are so much better.

I understand Lake Adventure is very important to you all, and like everyone else in America, money is causing everyone to panic. But let’s remember that Lake Adventure is a community where people COME TOGETHER… not rip each other apart.

To all the anonymous “commenters” I love how you can come on here and rip someone apart and not even have the decency or the gumption to put your name with your comment.

Thanks to you Ron and the other anonymous person who appreciates what my mother does for Lake Adventure.

Thanks for your time,

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Anonymous said...
I don't think anyone is debating whether we need a recreation director or not. Of course you have to have someone in that position if you are going to have social activities. I think the major concern is this: Why has this been a full-time position for so many years? It seems to be a bit extreme. Now all of a sudden the BOD can make it an 8-month job (and even entertain the thought of it as possibly a 6-month position). Doesn't that tell you something? If that person can do the same work in 6 or 8 months, why hasn't it been like that all along? And why haven't we had a longer calendar program than late June through August if it has been a full-time position all these years?

Plenty of people are at LA on the weekends. We open our trailer for the season at the end of April and don't close it until the end of October. I'm sure there are plenty of people who do the same thing. Wouldn't it be nice to have some simple clubhouse activities on Saturday nights in the early spring and after Labor Day (besides the one or two we already have)? There is usually a nice turn out for 'Meet the Candidates Night' in the spring and the Octoberfest is standing room only! Again, what does that tell you?

That brings us back to the point that during the off season most people are at Lake Adventure on the weekends - we're not a 9-5, Mon-Fri community. During the off season, the weekends are when we should have a presence of staff from each department and that includes recreation. Maybe then there wouldn't be as many gripes or complaints.

December 4, 2008 5:37 PM


Anonymous said...
15 Years ago we had a rec director who worked only full time in the summer and she also drove the bus to the trips. And we had more trips then we do now. Wonder where she found the time to do two jobs and both were considered part time and we now need someone full time to do one job.

December 4, 2008 4:23 PM



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Anonymous said...
I agree, the position is needed and as I said a lot of behind the scenes work goes into planning before the actual event. Just an ice cream night takes planning, contacting vendors, coordinating times, dates and costs, etc. arranging tables, clean up. Seems like just a little ice cream but a lot of time goes into planning. I worked as an admisistrative admin for years and it took at least an hour or two just to plan a lunch meeting for 10 people so planning something for hundreds, estimating turnout and costs is a lot of work. There are a lot of headaches doing this full time and I and my family appreciate the effort the Rec Director puts in.

December 4, 2008 10:52 AM


Anonymous said...
Up till several years ago the rec director was a seasonal job which had full time hours just for July and August and all the activities were similar. So why does it now take a full time employee or a seasonal employee for 8 months to now do the same job? As far as what activities occur this decision is made by the social committee not the rec director.

December 4, 2008 11:31 AM

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment":


COORDINATING SCHEDULES???? Just take out the calendar for the past few years. How many DIFFERENT items are on there from year to year? Get real!!! You could basically just change the year on the printout and call it your current schedule! If the trips were new and different, maybe there wouldn't be cancelled trips due to lack of participation. And she SHOULD work on Saturday and Sunday, especially during May, June, September and October so there would be activities because the majority of the people who are up at LA those months are there for the weekends! As far as the stress and long hours during the summer - she has a STAFF! It's not a one-person department! An assistant to the director and the actual director should be alternating their hours so that neither one is stuck having to work overtime. It should be the rare occasion such as Lake Adventure Day that anyone on the recreation staff has an overtime schedule.

I'd like to know what board member proposed this glam 8-month deal when originally in August it was proposed as a 6-month CONTRACT position. A contract position would save us money: first 2 months of unnecessary wages, payroll taxes (subcontracted personnel pay their own payroll taxes), and they are not usually eligible for benefits or unemployment.

One last thing, what role does the Social Committee have in regard to the Recreation Department - personnel, activities, etc.?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment":

OK YOU ALL PROBLY BEAT UP THE RECS POSITION PRETTY GOOD.KATIE AND HER CREW DO A GREAT JOB AND I THINK ALL OF YOU RUDE AND THOUGHTLESS PEOPLE PROBLY MADE HER THINK HOW LITTLE YOU CARE ABOUT HER JOB AND HER CREW.SHE MIGHT NOT RETURN,WHICH WOULD BE A MAJOR LOSS FOR LA.WE COME UP EVERY WEEKEND AND AT 7AM I GET MY PAPER AND SHES THERE AND AT NIGHT I SEE HER THERE AFTER 8 SOMETIMES,DO THE MATH SHE DOESNT WORK A 40 HOUR WEEK LIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS,AND ATLEAST I SEE RESULTS,WHICH OUR DAUGHTER ENJOYS,AND ISNT THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.HER AND HER CREW ARE WORTH EVERY PENNY,SO LETS NOT TRY TO LOOSE THEM RON S 66 BLUE ASPEN

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "comment + 12' wide issue":

I agree. It seems the town is playing hard ball so before I do anything next spring I'll get a survey. I'm interested in the actual dimensions of my lot anyway so this is a good time to have one done. Appreciate your help.